[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT

Paul Keating Paul at law.es
Wed Oct 18 13:17:23 UTC 2017 

Michele,

The law on jurisdiction is not simply about ³doing business² in the common
sense (which a non-lawyer would presume references offices, employees, etc).
The GDPR attempts to expand jurisdiction to cover any entity that sells to
European residents.  Unless a registrar/registry were to absolutely preclude
Europeans from registering domain names (or purchasing any other
product/service), the language of the GDPR could extend so as to include
that entity within its confines.   It would be difficult to imagine a
registrar/registry being successful in such a case.


Paul 

From:  <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Michele Blacknight
<michele at blacknight.com>
Date:  Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 2:48 PM
To:  John Bambenek <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>, Volker Greimann
<vgreimann at key-systems.net>
Cc:  "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT

> It¹s not that simple.
>  
> If the company only operates in the US and nowhere else then yes.
> Otherwise they also have to comply with the other jurisdiction¹s laws.
> It¹s always been this way and always will be.
>  
>  
>  
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> From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of John Bambenek via
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> Reply-To: John Bambenek <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>
> Date: Tuesday 17 October 2017 at 18:42
> To: Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
> Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT
> 
>  
> If the registrar is based in the US, our rules apply. Period.
> 
> -- 
> 
> John Bambenek
> 
> 
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 18:27, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net
> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net> > wrote:
>> 
>> That may help with US-based providers, but those based elsewhere...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Am 17.10.2017 um 18:25 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
>>> So what you're saying is that if there were a legal requirement to request
>>> and disseminate that data, all this is moot?
>>> 
>>> I can fix that, will send a note to Congress now.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/2017 03:53 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>>>> Sure although I doubt there is a need to waste money on a legal review as
>>>> the below is self-evident.
>>>> 
>>>> To collect, store (and publish, in some cases) certain information, there
>>>> has to be a legal requirement or a legal right to do so. For example, car
>>>> ownership legislation usually requires the registration of the owner of the
>>>> car in a public register, but there is no requirement to register the
>>>> actual driver. Incorporating a legal entity requires by law certain data to
>>>> be entered into a register that may be public or not, depending on
>>>> jurisdiction. Gun ownership in some jurisdiction requires registration of
>>>> the gun, the owner or both in a usually non-public register. In some
>>>> jurisdictions, criminals that have served their time will have to register
>>>> when moving into areas where such jurisdition applies. In Europe, the
>>>> operator of the website is required to publish certain information about
>>>> himself in an easy-to-find section of the website. Internet service
>>>> providers may be required by law to keep connection data of their customers
>>>> for longer than actually needed for business practices.
>>>> 
>>>> All these rules impact the right of private individuals to their own data,
>>>> but this impact is permitted due to the legal basis (I am not going into
>>>> the many cases where legal requirements have been overturned in court as
>>>> the impact on the rights was unjustified or overly deep).
>>>> 
>>>> No such legal requirement exists for domain ownership. There are private
>>>> policies, agreements between parties, but none of these are actually
>>>> allowed to supersede legal requirements for the protection of such data. In
>>>> other words, these do not create an exception to the legal requirements but
>>>> have to work within their limits.
>>>> 
>>>> So, concluding, whatever we discuss, it cannot violate data privacy rights.
>>>> If it did, the policy would be unenforceable or even void. Let's not fool
>>>> ourselves into believing such legal rights can be waived, as the legal
>>>> protections against that are rather strong. For example, while a data
>>>> subject can provide consent, the GDPR puts very significant constraints on
>>>> this, how it can be obtained, how it can be revoked and what the
>>>> consequences of either are. For example, we cannot require consent as a
>>>> contractual condition and we cannot revoke the registration if consent is
>>>> revoked as that would violate the requirement that consent must be "freely
>>>> given".
>>>> 
>>>> Volker
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Am 17.10.2017 um 03:09 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I respect that may be the case but can we get some unbiased analysis in
>>>>> this regard similar to what we¹ve done recently? I¹m not saying I¹m any
>>>>> less biased here than you are. I¹m just trying to gather the relevant
>>>>> facts. Can you elaborate on below please?
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:07 AM Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net
>>>>> <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net> > wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We will also have to differentiate etween public directories that exist
>>>>>> due to a legislatory requirement and those that have come into being
>>>>>> without any such justification due to "reasons".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 15.10.2017 um 09:42 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, Ayden. I am catching up. The thing I don't get is that we need to
>>>>>>> look at whether there is an exception made for public directories in the
>>>>>>> ePrivacy Directive. If there is such an exception, and it is also the
>>>>>>> case that GDPR doesn't supersede the ePrivacy Directive, than I am
>>>>>>> having difficulty reconciling that. I think we should ask ICANN staff if
>>>>>>> they have looked into this issue or come across it--so we have taken
>>>>>>> this into consideration without having to guess.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com> > wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It might indeed be a Regulation if adopted, but this is just a proposal
>>>>>>> for now. Paragraph 30 of the European Commission's proposed text states,
>>>>>>> "The right to privacy and to protection of the personal data of a
>>>>>>> natural person requires that end-users that are natural persons are
>>>>>>> asked for consent before their personal data are included in a
>>>>>>> directory. The legitimate interest of legal entities requires that
>>>>>>> end-users that are legal entities have the right to object to the data
>>>>>>> related to them being included in a directory."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do not think it is appropriate for us as a Working Group to try to
>>>>>>> predict what the outcome will be here; will the proposed text change
>>>>>>> [this clause hasn't changed over the past 12 months...], will it be
>>>>>>> adopted at all? I think it will be more productive if we stick with what
>>>>>>> is definitive; that GDPR has been adopted and enforcement begins in May
>>>>>>> 2018, and yes, the e-Privacy Directive from 2002 (and again, not a
>>>>>>> Regulation) has been transposed into national laws in EU member states.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think the best thing we can do is rely on the legal advice that was
>>>>>>> commissioned for us, and tailored to respond to the questions that we as
>>>>>>> a working group sought answers to. Among them, I draw your attention to
>>>>>>> the answer to question 9. I think the final paragraph, which discusses
>>>>>>> proportionality in the context of publicly accessible databases, is very
>>>>>>> relevant when you cite the e-Privacy Directive's references to
>>>>>>> subscriber directories. Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Local Time: 13 October 2017 9:23 PM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> UTC Time: 13 October 2017 20:23
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net
>>>>>>> <mailto:jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com> >,
>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>>>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> >, gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> , theo geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl
>>>>>>> <mailto:gtheo at xs4all.nl> >
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think the proposed amendment to the eprivacy directive in effect is
>>>>>>> being debated as a regulation
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_com
>>>>>>> ments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_septembe
>>>>>>> r_2017.pdf 
>>>>>>> <http://www.informationpolicycentre.com/uploads/5/7/1/0/57104281/cipl_co
>>>>>>> mments_on_the_proposal_for_an_eprivacy_regulation_final_draft_11_septemb
>>>>>>> er_2017.pdf>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com> > wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please remember that there is a difference between a Regulation (which
>>>>>>> GDPR is) and a Directive (which is what e-Privacy is). I think this
>>>>>>> distinction is important in this conversation. Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:59 pm, jonathan matkowsky
>>>>>>> <jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net <mailto:jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I am trying to piece this all together. It seems like there may be a
>>>>>>> possibility that the eprivacy directive will eventually be updated by
>>>>>>> the regulation but that there is still intense debates over the
>>>>>>> regulation, that GDPR doesn¹t trump the directive itself, and that there
>>>>>>> may be exceptions in the directive for a public database when GDPR comes
>>>>>>> into effect.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If the above is true than GDPR may not actually cover the public Whois
>>>>>>> when it comes into effect unless and until the regulation comes into
>>>>>>> effect (which is still being debated and likely won¹t be resolved by the
>>>>>>> time GDPR comes into effect) reconciling inconsistencies between GDPR
>>>>>>> and the applicable privacy directive that has some kind of exception for
>>>>>>> a public directory?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Again, it¹s imperative we get clarity around this issue to do our work
>>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:29 AM theo geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl
>>>>>>> <mailto:gtheo at xs4all.nl> > wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html
>>>>>>> <https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eprivacy seems to be delayed though
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://iapp.org/news/a/libe-eprivacy-vote-delayed-juri-itre-and-edps-we
>>>>>>> igh-in/ 
>>>>>>> <https://iapp.org/news/a/libe-eprivacy-vote-delayed-juri-itre-and-edps-w
>>>>>>> eigh-in/> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Theo 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13-10-2017 20:22, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>>>>> I believe the Art 29 group has commented on this matter, please check
>>>>>>> their website for the relevant documents, as I don't believe we have
>>>>>>> included them in our document respository.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2017-10-13 14:16, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the Privacy Directive, as I understand it is not superseded by GDPR
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I presume you are referring to the European Union's e-Privacy Directive
>>>>>>> (2002/58/EC). If so, from what I understand it is currently being
>>>>>>> updated so to be consistent with the GDPR. As of last month the proposed
>>>>>>> revisions were with the Council of the European Union. I'm not sure what
>>>>>>> movement there has been since then.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Local Time: 13 October 2017 1:51 PM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> UTC Time: 13 October 2017 12:51
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net
>>>>>>> <mailto:jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To: Chuck <consult at cgomes.com> <mailto:consult at cgomes.com> ,
>>>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chuck, I don¹t understand how anyone can share government perspective,
>>>>>>> and not represent a group in doing so.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wanted to know whether leadership team has decided to conduct a DPIA,
>>>>>>> and if so, whether you are using the UK¹s guide. I would think while it
>>>>>>> makes sense to be looking at the purposes of collection, what is primary
>>>>>>> and secondary cannot be the focus because that presupposes knowing who
>>>>>>> the controller is. We have not yet decided that as a working group. The
>>>>>>> memo did not necessarily take into account the role of offering
>>>>>>> accreditation services and ICANN¹s mission.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But it appears whether it¹s primary or secondary doesn¹t matter for
>>>>>>> purposes of defining purposes of collecting each data element.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are not defining the purposes of collecting Whois data but the data
>>>>>>> elements of the next generation of Whois. That¹s what I meant the other
>>>>>>> day regarding RDS.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To do that, we are not limited to the data elements that currently exist
>>>>>>> as when we go through this exercise to fulfill ICANN¹s mission from
>>>>>>> ICANN¹s perspective including all those involved in cybersecurity, or to
>>>>>>> offer accredited registration services. The primary purpose of
>>>>>>> accredited services is to fulfill the mission, and to provide that
>>>>>>> staple of a service to those that register names with an accredited
>>>>>>> registrar. It seems we need to carefully consider not only Spec 3 to the
>>>>>>> 2013 RAA but also Paragraph 14 to the 2017 global amendment to the
>>>>>>> registry agreement which says unique DNS records may be supportable in
>>>>>>> the RDS if RDAP supports it. We therefore need to know what RDAP can
>>>>>>> support, and at the very least need to consider all elements from RFC
>>>>>>> 7485. This is not a simple exercise, and will take **significant** time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As we undertake this, we must know from WS law firm what role the public
>>>>>>> directory service plays in the Privacy Directive, as I understand it is
>>>>>>> not superseded by GDPR, and Whois is a public directory. This is
>>>>>>> critical analysis we are possibly missing. Can you ask them to address
>>>>>>> this ASAP please?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jonathan  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:35 AM Chuck <consult at cgomes.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:consult at cgomes.com> > wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have 34 volunteers at present; it would help a lot if we could get a
>>>>>>> lot more so that teams will not have to cover more than one of the nine
>>>>>>> purposes.  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Thanks much to the 34 of you who have volunteered.  I hope many more
>>>>>>> will complete the poll and volunteer in the remaining 6 or so hours of
>>>>>>> the poll. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> We are particularly low for the government perspective.  Remember, team
>>>>>>> members are not being asked to represent any group but rather to share
>>>>>>> their understanding of the perspective.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Chuck 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>  [mailto:
>>>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Lisa Phifer
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:19 AM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from 10
>>>>>>> October Meeting
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Importance: High
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear all, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> In follow-up to this week¹s WG meeting, all RDS PDP WG Members are
>>>>>>> encouraged to participate in the following poll:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3
>>>>>>> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Responses should be submitted through the above URL. For offline
>>>>>>> reference, a PDF of poll questions can also be found at:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10Oc
>>>>>>> toberCall.pdf
>>>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10O
>>>>>>> ctoberCall.pdf>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> This poll will close at COB Wednesday 11 October.  Expressions of
>>>>>>> interest gathered through this poll will be used form drafting teams.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Please note that you must be a WG Member to participate in polls. If you
>>>>>>> are a WG Observer wishing to participate in polls, you must first
>>>>>>> contact gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>  to upgrade to
>>>>>>> WG Member. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Regards, 
>>>>>>> Lisa 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jonathan Matkowsky
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>> Jonathan Matkowsky
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>> 
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>> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
>>  
>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>>  
>> Volker A. Greimann
>> - Rechtsabteilung -
>>  
>> Key-Systems GmbH
>> Im Oberen Werk 1
>> 66386 St. Ingbert
>> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
>> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
>> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>
>>  
>> Web: www.key-systems.net <http://www.key-systems.net>  / www.RRPproxy.net
>> <http://www.RRPproxy.net>
>> www.domaindiscount24.com <http://www.domaindiscount24.com>  /
>> www.BrandShelter.com <http://www.BrandShelter.com>
>>  
>> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
>> www.facebook.com/KeySystems <http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>
>> www.twitter.com/key_systems <http://www.twitter.com/key_systems>
>>  
>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
>> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
>> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
>>  
>> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
>> www.keydrive.lu <http://www.keydrive.lu>
>>  
>> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen
>> Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder
>> Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese
>> Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per
>> E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------
>>  
>> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
>>  
>> Best regards,
>>  
>> Volker A. Greimann
>> - legal department -
>>  
>> Key-Systems GmbH
>> Im Oberen Werk 1
>> 66386 St. Ingbert
>> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
>> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
>> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net> 
>>  
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>> <http://www.RRPproxy.net> 
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>>  
>> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
>> Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken 
>> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
>>  
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