[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
gtheo
gtheo at xs4all.nl
Tue Oct 24 11:47:38 UTC 2017
Unless you can exercise complete enforcement of data protection, consent
is meaningless.
John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg schreef op 2017-10-24 01:43 PM:
> Either way it should be a consumer choice not a registrar choice. We
> inform the consumer the consequences of each choice. You want to be
> trusted and have a higher chance of email deliver, publish whois. If
> you’d rather protect privacy stuff beyond using role based registrant
> details (there is nothing that says my personal domain registrant
> details actually had to be my name or that I can’t use a role-based
> email address), then fine.
>
> There are so many so many solutions to this problem that don’t involve
> turning off whois. Which is why those registrars will lose this round
> (they might have had a shot if they stuck with natural persons).
> Disclaimer, I haven’t looked precisely what they are doing and only
> relying on media representation so there could be nuance (I am mobile
> and traveling in Germany so I can’t check easily now).
>
> Empower the consumer with information and a free choice and then this
> literally becomes the twitter problem (ie non-existent).
>
> --
> John Bambenek
>
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 13:33, "benny at nordreg.se" <benny at nordreg.se>
>> wrote:
>>
>> But thats exactly whats wrong, it should be hidden by default for
>> natural persons and then published only when they request and have
>> signed up on that “yes I am stupid enough to give away my details of
>> my own free will”
>>
>> I can agree that corporate info seems a little over kill
>> --
>> Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen
>>
>> Benny Samuelsen
>> Registry Manager - Domainexpert
>>
>> Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar
>> IANA-ID: 638
>> Phone: +46.42197080
>> Direct: +47.32260201
>> Mobile: +47.40410200
>>
>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 13:29, John Bambenek <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For natural persons on request. This looks like “no one gets whois on
>>> no one” including corporations. And you know full well what my
>>> position is. Stop misrepresenting it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Bambenek
>>>
>>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 13:18, "benny at nordreg.se" <benny at nordreg.se>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Funny you sounds upset about a solution similar to you suggestion
>>>> earlier with free whois privacy for everyone…
>>>> --
>>>> Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen
>>>>
>>>> Benny Samuelsen
>>>> Registry Manager - Domainexpert
>>>>
>>>> Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar
>>>> IANA-ID: 638
>>>> Phone: +46.42197080
>>>> Direct: +47.32260201
>>>> Mobile: +47.40410200
>>>>
>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 13:11, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg
>>>>> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So your solution is no one but law enforcement gets whois on
>>>>> anyone? Because that appears to be the case for .frl and
>>>>> .amsterdam. Why even bother talking about RDS then?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> John Bambenek
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 13:00, Volker Greimann
>>>>>> <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True. Legal Requirement (Action) -> Compliant implementation
>>>>>> (Reaction)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously though, I see this as a legitimate proposal for a
>>>>>> registry operator to both meet the needs of law enforcement to
>>>>>> access this data and the data protection requirements in the
>>>>>> jurisdictions that affect their business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN should not have turned this into a compliance matter, but
>>>>>> now that they did, It is good to see them stand up and defend
>>>>>> their need to remain compliant with applicable laws. I see this as
>>>>>> a model of how all Whois data for European data subjects will
>>>>>> likely look in less than 6 months.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 24.10.2017 um 12:42 schrieb John Bambenek:
>>>>>>> Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> John Bambenek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:48, Volker Greimann
>>>>>>>> <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fighting the good fight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 24.10.2017 um 11:32 schrieb Kris Seeburn:
>>>>>>>>> This might be interesting news….
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://domainincite.com/22218-amsterdam-refuses-to-publish-whois-records-as-gdpr-row-escalates
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 07:59, jonathan matkowsky
>>>>>>>>>> <jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Chuck, Regarding below, has a decision been made by
>>>>>>>>>> leadership whether to invite the org folks to meet with us in
>>>>>>>>>> Abu Dhabi as Greg A. was suggesting?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:46 AM jonathan matkowsky
>>>>>>>>>> <jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The other week I was asking this group about the significance
>>>>>>>>>> of the ePrivacy Directive and asked to get some feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The memo says:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> While our memorandum series will primarily focus on the GDPR,
>>>>>>>>>> we will also address other relevant pieces of EU legislation
>>>>>>>>>> that may have effect on the processing of personal data
>>>>>>>>>> through the Whois services, such as but not limited to the EU
>>>>>>>>>> ePrivacy Directive 2002/58/EC and the proposed new EU ePrivacy
>>>>>>>>>> Regulation aimed to replace the said directive in May 2018.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is exactly what I was asking to understand.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That said, I do want to continue our work, but I also have
>>>>>>>>>> limited resources—as do we all—so the sooner we can get this
>>>>>>>>>> information, the better. It may help us in deciding the most
>>>>>>>>>> efficient way forward, or at least help confirm we aren’t
>>>>>>>>>> wasting our time in how we move forward here?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:40 AM Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Chuck:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ICANN meetings are for information-sharing. And since we have
>>>>>>>>>> two efforts working on some of the exact same issues, I
>>>>>>>>>> suggest that some info-sharing could be very helpful to our
>>>>>>>>>> volunteers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The ICANN Org effort with Hamilton is clearly going to be more
>>>>>>>>>> comprehensive than the narrow effort our WG has received from
>>>>>>>>>> Wilson Sonsini. And as you know, the Org effort will set a
>>>>>>>>>> precedent which will be important for our WG to understand.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The new memo, and those to come, are about the impact of GDPR
>>>>>>>>>> on registration data and WHOIS. I draw your attention to the
>>>>>>>>>> end of the blog post:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> “As a reminder, this legal analysis is intended to serve as
>>>>>>>>>> building block for community discussions about how to approach
>>>>>>>>>> GDPR issues in the domain name space. [WHOIS.]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's where we need help from the multistakeholder community:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please review the initial legal analysis and provide feedback.
>>>>>>>>>> This includes identifying possible questions, and how best to
>>>>>>>>>> interact with data protection agencies and others to get to
>>>>>>>>>> the next step of the analysis.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It will be helpful to receive your feedback at the earliest
>>>>>>>>>> opportunity, so as to inform the upcoming discussions at
>>>>>>>>>> ICANN60, and to feed into future iterations of the legal
>>>>>>>>>> analysis.”
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The RDS WG is the main place where the multistakeholder
>>>>>>>>>> community is considering WHOIS. So one would think that
>>>>>>>>>> ICANN Org would have already reached out to our WG. I am
>>>>>>>>>> surprised that it has not. So, I think it’s appropriate for
>>>>>>>>>> us to invite the Org folks in. The goal is to understand that
>>>>>>>>>> work and ask questions. Maybe the RDS WG could then formulate
>>>>>>>>>> some feedback as requested above. After all, we’ve been
>>>>>>>>>> thinking about this stuff for almost two years now..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this
>>>>>>>>>> effort's schedule and workplan. The memo says: "We intend to
>>>>>>>>>> provide a series of memorandums, which will address different
>>>>>>>>>> aspects of the issue and where the scope and topics of each
>>>>>>>>>> such memorandum will be discussed and agreed with ICANN. We
>>>>>>>>>> understand that ICANN intends to make each memorandum publicly
>>>>>>>>>> available." I do not see any of those details in the memo or
>>>>>>>>>> blog. For example, what topics will be the subjects of the
>>>>>>>>>> forthcoming memos? There’s clearly a plan for that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have no idea of any of that will come out in the GDPR
>>>>>>>>>> session on Thursday, but since that consists of panel
>>>>>>>>>> presentations, I am unsure and would prefer that our WG
>>>>>>>>>> definitely get a briefing and a chance to ask questions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR -
>>>>>>>>>> Part 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am curious as to how the questions are being framed. Who
>>>>>>>>>> is the client, ICANN the MS body, ICANN the CEO and staff (who
>>>>>>>>>> have been found to be a co-controller and therefore have an
>>>>>>>>>> interest in avoiding fines) or ICANN the Board.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are different interests at stake here, I think it would
>>>>>>>>>> be useful to get a fuller understanding of how Teresa
>>>>>>>>>> Swineheart is handling the development of questions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-10-19 10:43, Chuck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having just finished reading the Hamilton memo, I don't
>>>>>>>>>> understand why you
>>>>>>>>>> think the WG needs a presentation? What would a presentation
>>>>>>>>>> from Teresa or
>>>>>>>>>> other ICANN staff person provide us that we couldn't get from
>>>>>>>>>> the memo
>>>>>>>>>> itself and other sources such as the ICANN Blog, etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you identify any advice from Hamilton that would supplant
>>>>>>>>>> work we have
>>>>>>>>>> been doing? If so, please identify it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion:
>>>>>>>>>> - The advice of ways forward fits nicely into our policy
>>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>> processes.
>>>>>>>>>> - The Hamilton Memo confirms much of what we already heard
>>>>>>>>>> from the DP
>>>>>>>>>> experts and Wilson Sonsini so we now have it from three
>>>>>>>>>> separate sources.
>>>>>>>>>> - You are absolutely that we "need to understand and track the
>>>>>>>>>> legal
>>>>>>>>>> advice being made" and that it overlaps what we are doing but
>>>>>>>>>> I think that
>>>>>>>>>> will help us.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Greg Aaron [mailto:gca at icginc.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Chuck <consult at cgomes.com>; 'Alan Greenberg'
>>>>>>>>>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>;
>>>>>>>>>> 'GNSO RDS PDP' <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR -
>>>>>>>>>> Part 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear WG leadership:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As we expected, this ICANN Org effort will have a profound
>>>>>>>>>> effect on our
>>>>>>>>>> work. We will need to understand and track the legal advice
>>>>>>>>>> being made,
>>>>>>>>>> which overlaps with and in some places may supplant work we
>>>>>>>>>> have been doing.
>>>>>>>>>> And the memo's "Finding New Ways Forward" section (3.9)
>>>>>>>>>> provides advice for
>>>>>>>>>> the policy-making process. Clearly our WG needs (deserves) a
>>>>>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>>>>>> at Abu Dhabi from Teresa Swinehart, who is heading up this
>>>>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could this be done at the WG meeting on Wednesday 1 November?
>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday will be better attended, both in-person and
>>>>>>>>>> remotely. (Some
>>>>>>>>>> members may still be in transit during the WG's early Saturday
>>>>>>>>>> morning
>>>>>>>>>> meeting. And the Saturday meeting is at a challenging time
>>>>>>>>>> for those
>>>>>>>>>> participating remotely -- ~6:30 a.m. Saturday morning in
>>>>>>>>>> Europe / 12:30
>>>>>>>>>> a.m. Saturday East Coast USA.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this
>>>>>>>>>> effort's
>>>>>>>>>> schedule, workplan, and immediate next steps. The memo says:
>>>>>>>>>> "We intend to
>>>>>>>>>> provide a series of memorandums, which will address different
>>>>>>>>>> aspects of the
>>>>>>>>>> issue and where the scope and topics of each such memorandum
>>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>>> discussed and agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN
>>>>>>>>>> intends to make
>>>>>>>>>> each memorandum publicly available."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All best,
>>>>>>>>>> --Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:51 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Alan Greenberg' <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>; 'GNSO RDS
>>>>>>>>>> PDP'
>>>>>>>>>> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR -
>>>>>>>>>> Part 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I want to call attention to the following paragraph:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The memo highlights the complexity of these issues in the
>>>>>>>>>> domain name
>>>>>>>>>> space, and concludes that the current open, publicly available
>>>>>>>>>> WHOIS
>>>>>>>>>> services cannot remain unchanged. The WHOIS system has to
>>>>>>>>>> become adaptable
>>>>>>>>>> to address the GDPR from the European perspective, as well as
>>>>>>>>>> other changing
>>>>>>>>>> regulations around the world."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After input from Data Protection experts, the Wilson Sonsini
>>>>>>>>>> memo and now
>>>>>>>>>> this memo, do any in the WG disagree with this statement?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan
>>>>>>>>>> Greenberg
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: GNSO RDS PDP <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR -
>>>>>>>>>> Part 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Full Blog post is at
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update.
>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 19/10/2017 12:23 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it has already been posted, but if not, ICANN has
>>>>>>>>>> received the
>>>>>>>>>> first part of the independent legal analysis of the GDPR in
>>>>>>>>>> relation to
>>>>>>>>>> WHOIS that had been commissioned.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It can be found at
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-memorandum-part1-16oct
>>>>>>>>>> 17-e
>>>>>>>>>> n.pdf.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Matkowsky
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kris Seeburn
>>>>>>>>> seeburn.k at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> • www.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <KeepItOn_Social_animated.gif>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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