[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] RDS-PDP-WG Looking for blue sky

[Chen, Tim]

Thank you Sam for being a rational voice.

as a 'stupid consumer' who actually prefers to have my whois data public
(there are many many reasons people will choose this, and it is not because
they lack intelligence or some enlightened privacy perspective), I can only
observe that this RDS group is quickly devolving into single-issue voters
yelling at each other and accomplishing nothing, which is why I quickly
retreated after trying to contribute early on.

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 5:55 AM, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net> wrote:

> As a domain owner and one who works with at risk groups in less than open
> societies I don't have one "dog in this race". I work with groups, and
> myself, where lots, or little, information is available through WHOIS, and
> in some cases (e.g. for ccTLD .ca) the minimum is set by Registry/Registrar
> policy. For groups that risk physical harm privacy/proxy is essential (and
> that includes not just repressive regimes, it includes some half-way houses
> for abused women in North America). We are dealing with multiple
> stakeholders here.
>
> We need to remind ourselves that we are looking for the viable
> intersection of the needs of four groups: the registrant, the
> registrars/registries, the various data protection regimes, and those who
> (for whatever reasons) make legal use of what is deemed to be properly
> available.
>
> The postings that verge on character attacks, even against "stupid
> consumers" don't contribute to our work. We are looking for the acceptable
> intersection of four sets of needs, wants, and (in the case of governments)
> policies, and we are not looking for, nor would we reach a consensus on, a
> null set.
>
> By any assessment of the pace of progress we have been painfully slow. For
> those of you who are face-to-face in Abu Dhabi, for the sake of the work,
> and the efforts of those of us who cannot attend, focus on the what and why
> of what constitutes the viable set that will move us toward consensus.
>
> Sam Lanfranco (ncsg/npoc)
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