[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
Paul Keating
Paul at law.es
Tue Oct 24 15:55:34 UTC 2017
HEY!
Stop this crap.
Lets get back to work and stop tossing silly word bombs.
Paul
From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Volker Greimann
<vgreimann at key-systems.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 4:14 PM
To: Dotzero <dotzero at gmail.com>, theo geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl>
Cc: RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
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> You are describing the series of tubes, right?
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> But seriously, it does not help to accuse each other of ignorance.
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> It is one thing to block trafic based on concrete and objective criteria and
> another to do the same out of malice or based on gut feelings. The former is
> legitimate, the latter can in some jurisdictions and circumstances be cause
> for claims for damages due to illegal interferance with legitimate businesses.
> Of course, private businesses can select what they want to filter or not, but
> there are also more open operations out there that use some questionable
> methods...
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> Volker
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> Am 24.10.2017 um 15:52 schrieb Dotzero:
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>> Theo,
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>>
>> You clearly don't understand the nature of the Internet - It is a network of
>> networks. Some are public and some are private. Nobody is obliged to accept
>> packets from anyone. I do blocking of traffic on a daily basis. It is
>> normally at a very granular level based on malicious network traffic.
>> Sometimes it is based on IP Address or ASN and sometimes it is based on
>> domain. Sometimes we block activity based on email address. Sometimes it is
>> based on first hand observation of activity and sometimes it is based on 3rd
>> party information.
>>
>> There are all sorts of lists and inputs available that people/organizations
>> use for all sorts of decisions. Your packets are not entitled to "due
>> process" on someone else's private network.
>>
>> For example, some networks block traffic from Russia based on the fact that
>> they have no legitimate traffic from that country and a high percentage of
>> malicious traffic originates from there. You can get a list of all the ASNs
>> associated with Russia. Or perhaps those networks don't like the fact that
>> Russia invaded Crimea.
>>
>>
>> One would hope that someone wouldn't block simply on the basis of a blog
>> article, but if they choose to, why is that any of your business? Their
>> decision is based on the lack of visibility into data points which they have
>> learned are extremely useful in combating abuse. Lack of those data points
>> may make their networks, their organization and (other) users at risk.
>>
>>
>> Michael Hammer
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>>
>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:30 AM, theo geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .Amsterdam been offering free privacy on a Registry level since 2016.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be strange they now get added to blocklists or RPZ's due to a blog
>>> article. If this is how these blocklists work than they should be banned and
>>> made illegal as there is no real due process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Theo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24-10-2017 15:24, Dotzero wrote:
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>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that is the reaction John was thinking of Volker.
>>>>
>>>> One reaction (proposal that has actually been made this morning) to the
>>>> going dark steps taken by Mijndomein is to add FRLregistry and dotAmsterdam
>>>> to block lists or RPZ. I don't know whether this proposal will gain
>>>> traction or not. Other potential reactions might include blocking domains
>>>> registered through particular registrars. There is certainly a potential
>>>> for balkanization of the Internet from these sorts of actions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personally I'm taking a wait and see approach before deciding what to
>>>> propose internally within my organization for traffic originating from TLDs
>>>> or registrars who have gone dark.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Hammer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Volker Greimann
>>>> <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> True. Legal Requirement (Action) -> Compliant implementation (Reaction)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously though, I see this as a legitimate proposal for a registry
>>>>> operator to both meet the needs of law enforcement to access this data and
>>>>> the data protection requirements in the jurisdictions that affect their
>>>>> business.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ICANN should not have turned this into a compliance matter, but now that
>>>>> they did, It is good to see them stand up and defend their need to remain
>>>>> compliant with applicable laws. I see this as a model of how all Whois
>>>>> data for European data subjects will likely look in less than 6 months.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Volker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 24.10.2017 um 12:42 schrieb John Bambenek:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> John Bambenek
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:48, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fighting the good fight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 24.10.2017 um 11:32 schrieb Kris Seeburn:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This might be interesting newsŠ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://domainincite.com/22218-amsterdam-refuses-to-publish-whois-records
>>>>>>> -as-gdpr-row-escalates
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 07:59, jonathan matkowsky
>>>>>>> <jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Chuck, Regarding below, has a decision been made by leadership
>>>>>>> whether to invite the org folks to meet with us in Abu Dhabi as Greg A.
>>>>>>> was suggesting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:46 AM jonathan matkowsky
>>>>>>> <jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other week I was asking this group about the significance of the
>>>>>>> ePrivacy Directive and asked to get some feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The memo says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While our memorandum series will primarily focus on the GDPR, we will
>>>>>>> also address other relevant pieces of EU legislation that may have
>>>>>>> effect on the processing of personal data through the Whois services,
>>>>>>> such as but not limited to the EU ePrivacy Directive 2002/58/EC and the
>>>>>>> proposed new EU ePrivacy Regulation aimed to replace the said directive
>>>>>>> in May 2018.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is exactly what I was asking to understand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That said, I do want to continue our work, but I also have limited
>>>>>>> resources‹as do we all‹so the sooner we can get this information, the
>>>>>>> better. It may help us in deciding the most efficient way forward, or at
>>>>>>> least help confirm we aren¹t wasting our time in how we move forward
>>>>>>> here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:40 AM Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Chuck:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICANN meetings are for information-sharing. And since we have two
>>>>>>> efforts working on some of the exact same issues, I suggest that some
>>>>>>> info-sharing could be very helpful to our volunteers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ICANN Org effort with Hamilton is clearly going to be more
>>>>>>> comprehensive than the narrow effort our WG has received from Wilson
>>>>>>> Sonsini. And as you know, the Org effort will set a precedent which
>>>>>>> will be important for our WG to understand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The new memo, and those to come, are about the impact of GDPR on
>>>>>>> registration data and WHOIS. I draw your attention to the end of the
>>>>>>> blog post:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ³As a reminder, this legal analysis is intended to serve as building
>>>>>>> block for community discussions about how to approach GDPR issues in the
>>>>>>> domain name space. [WHOIS.]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's where we need help from the multistakeholder community:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please review the initial legal analysis and provide feedback. This
>>>>>>> includes identifying possible questions, and how best to interact with
>>>>>>> data protection agencies and others to get to the next step of the
>>>>>>> analysis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will be helpful to receive your feedback at the earliest opportunity,
>>>>>>> so as to inform the upcoming discussions at ICANN60, and to feed into
>>>>>>> future iterations of the legal analysis.²
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The RDS WG is the main place where the multistakeholder community is
>>>>>>> considering WHOIS. So one would think that ICANN Org would have
>>>>>>> already reached out to our WG. I am surprised that it has not. So, I
>>>>>>> think it¹s appropriate for us to invite the Org folks in. The goal is
>>>>>>> to understand that work and ask questions. Maybe the RDS WG could then
>>>>>>> formulate some feedback as requested above. After all, we¹ve been
>>>>>>> thinking about this stuff for almost two years now..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this effort's
>>>>>>> schedule and workplan. The memo says: "We intend to provide a series of
>>>>>>> memorandums, which will address different aspects of the issue and where
>>>>>>> the scope and topics of each such memorandum will be discussed and
>>>>>>> agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN intends to make each
>>>>>>> memorandum publicly available." I do not see any of those details in
>>>>>>> the memo or blog. For example, what topics will be the subjects of the
>>>>>>> forthcoming memos? There¹s clearly a plan for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no idea of any of that will come out in the GDPR session on
>>>>>>> Thursday, but since that consists of panel presentations, I am unsure
>>>>>>> and would prefer that our WG definitely get a briefing and a chance to
>>>>>>> ask questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:19 AM
>>>>>>> To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am curious as to how the questions are being framed. Who is the
>>>>>>> client, ICANN the MS body, ICANN the CEO and staff (who have been found
>>>>>>> to be a co-controller and therefore have an interest in avoiding fines)
>>>>>>> or ICANN the Board.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are different interests at stake here, I think it would be useful
>>>>>>> to get a fuller understanding of how Teresa Swineheart is handling the
>>>>>>> development of questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2017-10-19 10:43, Chuck wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having just finished reading the Hamilton memo, I don't understand why
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> think the WG needs a presentation? What would a presentation from
>>>>>>> Teresa or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> other ICANN staff person provide us that we couldn't get from the memo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> itself and other sources such as the ICANN Blog, etc.?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you identify any advice from Hamilton that would supplant work we
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> been doing? If so, please identify it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my opinion:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - The advice of ways forward fits nicely into our policy development
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> processes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - The Hamilton Memo confirms much of what we already heard from the DP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> experts and Wilson Sonsini so we now have it from three separate
>>>>>>> sources.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - You are absolutely that we "need to understand and track the legal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> advice being made" and that it overlaps what we are doing but I think
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will help us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Greg Aaron [mailto:gca at icginc.com]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:25 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: Chuck <consult at cgomes.com> <mailto:consult at cgomes.com> ; 'Alan
>>>>>>> Greenberg' <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>>>>>>> ;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'GNSO RDS PDP' <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear WG leadership:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As we expected, this ICANN Org effort will have a profound effect on our
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> work. We will need to understand and track the legal advice being made,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which overlaps with and in some places may supplant work we have been
>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the memo's "Finding New Ways Forward" section (3.9) provides advice
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the policy-making process. Clearly our WG needs (deserves) a
>>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at Abu Dhabi from Teresa Swinehart, who is heading up this effort.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could this be done at the WG meeting on Wednesday 1 November?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wednesday will be better attended, both in-person and remotely. (Some
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> members may still be in transit during the WG's early Saturday morning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> meeting. And the Saturday meeting is at a challenging time for those
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> participating remotely -- ~6:30 a.m. Saturday morning in Europe / 12:30
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a.m. Saturday East Coast USA.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this effort's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> schedule, workplan, and immediate next steps. The memo says: "We intend
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> provide a series of memorandums, which will address different aspects of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> issue and where the scope and topics of each such memorandum will be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discussed and agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN intends to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> each memorandum publicly available."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 8:51 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: 'Alan Greenberg' <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>>>>>>> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> ; 'GNSO RDS PDP'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to call attention to the following paragraph:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The memo highlights the complexity of these issues in the domain name
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> space, and concludes that the current open, publicly available WHOIS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> services cannot remain unchanged. The WHOIS system has to become
>>>>>>> adaptable
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to address the GDPR from the European perspective, as well as other
>>>>>>> changing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regulations around the world."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After input from Data Protection experts, the Wilson Sonsini memo and
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this memo, do any in the WG disagree with this statement?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: GNSO RDS PDP <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Full Blog post is at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update.
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 19/10/2017 12:23 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps it has already been posted, but if not, ICANN has received the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> first part of the independent legal analysis of the GDPR in relation to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHOIS that had been commissioned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It can be found at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-memorandum-part1-16oct
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 17-e
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> n.pdf.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan Matkowsky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan Matkowsky
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kris Seeburn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seeburn.k at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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> --
> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>
> Volker A. Greimann
> - Rechtsabteilung -
>
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
>
> Web: www.key-systems.net <http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net
> <http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com
> <http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com
> <http://www.BrandShelter.com>
>
> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems <http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>
> www.twitter.com/key_systems <http://www.twitter.com/key_systems>
>
> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
>
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu <http://www.keydrive.lu>
>
> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen
> Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder
> Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese
> Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per
> E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Volker A. Greimann
> - legal department -
>
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
>
> Web: www.key-systems.net <http://www.key-systems.net> / www.RRPproxy.net
> <http://www.RRPproxy.net> www.domaindiscount24.com
> <http://www.domaindiscount24.com> / www.BrandShelter.com
> <http://www.BrandShelter.com>
>
> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems <http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>
> www.twitter.com/key_systems <http://www.twitter.com/key_systems>
>
> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
> Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
>
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu <http://www.keydrive.lu>
>
> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is
> addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this
> email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an
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> the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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