[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] what Mijndomein is doing #1
Greg Aaron
gca at icginc.com
Wed Oct 25 01:36:25 UTC 2017
First a note for the group about why this matters. Taking the other bit off-list for Marika and Palage (which involves some ICANN arcana).
This issue matters because:
1. When a contracted party says it cannot comply with its ICANN contract because of local law, should everyone trust what that party says, or should someone verify the facts? The community said “verify.” The Procedure allows ICANN Org to verify what the local law in question says, allows the parties to work out an acceptable accommodation that is not excessive, and the Procedure provides some transparency.
2. Uniformity of contracts is a generally desirable thing in this industry. Enforceability of contracts is always necessary.
3. The Procedure is failing because a contracted party can only invoke it if the applicable government provides a written statement that the ICANN contract conflicts with the applicable national law, or if the government states that the contracted party is actually in violation of the law. The government agencies are not forthcoming with such legal analyses right now, and no one wants to be on the receiving end of a “you’re violating the law” letter.
At least #1 and #2 will come up again in this WG at some point in the future. So, bookmarked.
All best,
--Greg
From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings at icann.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:53 PM
To: Michael D. Palage <michael at palage.com>; Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com>; 'Volker Greimann' <vgreimann at key-systems.net>; 'John Bambenek' <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
Michael, my understanding is that the ICANN Procedure for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law is the implementation of a Consensus Policy developed by the WHOIS Task Force that was adopted back in 2006 by the ICANN Board (see https://whois.icann.org/en/revised-icann-procedure-handling-whois-conflicts-privacy-law). You do raise a good question as to why it is not included in the list of Consensus Policies – I will follow up with my colleagues responsible for managing the web-page in question accordingly.
Best regards,
Marika
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Date: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 13:40
To: 'Greg Aaron' <gca at icginc.com<mailto:gca at icginc.com>>, 'Volker Greimann' <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>, 'John Bambenek' <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com<mailto:jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>>
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
Greg,
I agree that there is an “ICANN Procedure For Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law.” However, I do not believe it is a Consensus Policy. I think it is important to qualify when using this term Consensus Policy as it has certain legal significance under ICANN’s contracts with registration authorities.
I believe these are the only “true” ICANN Consensus Policies, see https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registrars/consensus-policies-en[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_registrars_consensus-2Dpolicies-2Den&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=nNnwwtGCBeodKkce_rE8ZyN3Xi8vzsADKjJ2kom47TE&s=tpufX-M0txka2GrUO3LJGcdgmZsK5X2SuQFRjIl99V8&e=>
Best regards,
Michael
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
Does anyone know if Mijndomein went through the “Revised ICANN Procedure For Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law”? It is the procedure to allow gTLD registry/registrars to demonstrate when they are prevented by local laws from fully complying with the provisions of ICANN contracts regarding personal data in WHOIS.
It is an ICANN Consensus Policy, and it was just revised to take care of exactly this problem. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/whois-privacy-conflicts-procedure-2008-01-17-en[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_whois-2Dprivacy-2Dconflicts-2Dprocedure-2D2008-2D01-2D17-2Den&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=nNnwwtGCBeodKkce_rE8ZyN3Xi8vzsADKjJ2kom47TE&s=i6lFpu0Hf4a6uyj7waS9ssRLhnCvYLkCaaiKRPUx-QI&e=>
All best,
--Greg
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
They are not blocking all of whois. Those with a legal right to receive the data still can.
This is not an act of belligerance, this is an attempt to comply with legal requirements while still providing some access. So yes, indeed, Legal Requirement (Action) -> Compliant implementation (Reaction),
Am 24.10.2017 um 16:49 schrieb John Bambenek:
They are picking a fight to make a point. There is no legal requirement to block all whois. GDPR isnt even in effect yet. The reason to block them is and artifact of belligerence they initiated. Like I said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
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On Oct 24, 2017, at 15:51, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
Why should these TLds be put on block lists absent any evidence of significant abusive use? Purely as a punitive measure for complying with legal requirements? That is not reasonable.
Volker
Am 24.10.2017 um 15:24 schrieb Dotzero:
I don't think that is the reaction John was thinking of Volker.
One reaction (proposal that has actually been made this morning) to the going dark steps taken by Mijndomein is to add FRLregistry and dotAmsterdam to block lists or RPZ. I don't know whether this proposal will gain traction or not. Other potential reactions might include blocking domains registered through particular registrars. There is certainly a potential for balkanization of the Internet from these sorts of actions.
Personally I'm taking a wait and see approach before deciding what to propose internally within my organization for traffic originating from TLDs or registrars who have gone dark.
Michael Hammer
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
True. Legal Requirement (Action) -> Compliant implementation (Reaction)
Seriously though, I see this as a legitimate proposal for a registry operator to both meet the needs of law enforcement to access this data and the data protection requirements in the jurisdictions that affect their business.
ICANN should not have turned this into a compliance matter, but now that they did, It is good to see them stand up and defend their need to remain compliant with applicable laws. I see this as a model of how all Whois data for European data subjects will likely look in less than 6 months.
Best,
Volker
Am 24.10.2017 um 12:42 schrieb John Bambenek:
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
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John Bambenek
On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:48, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
Fighting the good fight.
Am 24.10.2017 um 11:32 schrieb Kris Seeburn:
This might be interesting news….
http://domainincite.com/22218-amsterdam-refuses-to-publish-whois-records-as-gdpr-row-escalates[domainincite.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__domainincite.com_22218-2Damsterdam-2Drefuses-2Dto-2Dpublish-2Dwhois-2Drecords-2Das-2Dgdpr-2Drow-2Descalates&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=nNnwwtGCBeodKkce_rE8ZyN3Xi8vzsADKjJ2kom47TE&s=e275T244iZ-VAa1zVrcP-g7LBG42b2iCOW2TQdGx9zY&e=>
On Oct 24, 2017, at 07:59, jonathan matkowsky <jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net<mailto:jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net>> wrote:
Hi, Chuck, Regarding below, has a decision been made by leadership whether to invite the org folks to meet with us in Abu Dhabi as Greg A. was suggesting?
Thanks
Jonathan
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:46 AM jonathan matkowsky <jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net<mailto:jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net>> wrote:
The other week I was asking this group about the significance of the ePrivacy Directive and asked to get some feedback.
The memo says:
While our memorandum series will primarily focus on the GDPR, we will also address other relevant pieces of EU legislation that may have effect on the processing of personal data through the Whois services, such as but not limited to the EU ePrivacy Directive 2002/58/EC and the proposed new EU ePrivacy Regulation aimed to replace the said directive in May 2018.
This is exactly what I was asking to understand.
That said, I do want to continue our work, but I also have limited resources—as do we all—so the sooner we can get this information, the better. It may help us in deciding the most efficient way forward, or at least help confirm we aren’t wasting our time in how we move forward here?
Thanks
Jonathan
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:40 AM Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com<mailto:gca at icginc.com>> wrote:
Dear Chuck:
ICANN meetings are for information-sharing. And since we have two efforts working on some of the exact same issues, I suggest that some info-sharing could be very helpful to our volunteers.
The ICANN Org effort with Hamilton is clearly going to be more comprehensive than the narrow effort our WG has received from Wilson Sonsini. And as you know, the Org effort will set a precedent which will be important for our WG to understand.
The new memo, and those to come, are about the impact of GDPR on registration data and WHOIS. I draw your attention to the end of the blog post:
“As a reminder, this legal analysis is intended to serve as building block for community discussions about how to approach GDPR issues in the domain name space. [WHOIS.]
Here's where we need help from the multistakeholder community:
Please review the initial legal analysis and provide feedback. This includes identifying possible questions, and how best to interact with data protection agencies and others to get to the next step of the analysis.
It will be helpful to receive your feedback at the earliest opportunity, so as to inform the upcoming discussions at ICANN60, and to feed into future iterations of the legal analysis.”
The RDS WG is the main place where the multistakeholder community is considering WHOIS. So one would think that ICANN Org would have already reached out to our WG. I am surprised that it has not. So, I think it’s appropriate for us to invite the Org folks in. The goal is to understand that work and ask questions. Maybe the RDS WG could then formulate some feedback as requested above. After all, we’ve been thinking about this stuff for almost two years now..
As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this effort's schedule and workplan. The memo says: "We intend to provide a series of memorandums, which will address different aspects of the issue and where the scope and topics of each such memorandum will be discussed and agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN intends to make each memorandum publicly available." I do not see any of those details in the memo or blog. For example, what topics will be the subjects of the forthcoming memos? There’s clearly a plan for that.
I have no idea of any of that will come out in the GDPR session on Thursday, but since that consists of panel presentations, I am unsure and would prefer that our WG definitely get a briefing and a chance to ask questions.
All best,
--Greg
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
I am curious as to how the questions are being framed. Who is the client, ICANN the MS body, ICANN the CEO and staff (who have been found to be a co-controller and therefore have an interest in avoiding fines) or ICANN the Board.
There are different interests at stake here, I think it would be useful to get a fuller understanding of how Teresa Swineheart is handling the development of questions.
Stephanie Perrin
On 2017-10-19 10:43, Chuck wrote:
Greg,
Having just finished reading the Hamilton memo, I don't understand why you
think the WG needs a presentation? What would a presentation from Teresa or
other ICANN staff person provide us that we couldn't get from the memo
itself and other sources such as the ICANN Blog, etc.?
Can you identify any advice from Hamilton that would supplant work we have
been doing? If so, please identify it.
In my opinion:
- The advice of ways forward fits nicely into our policy development
processes.
- The Hamilton Memo confirms much of what we already heard from the DP
experts and Wilson Sonsini so we now have it from three separate sources.
- You are absolutely that we "need to understand and track the legal
advice being made" and that it overlaps what we are doing but I think that
will help us.
Chuck
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Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
Dear WG leadership:
As we expected, this ICANN Org effort will have a profound effect on our
work. We will need to understand and track the legal advice being made,
which overlaps with and in some places may supplant work we have been doing.
And the memo's "Finding New Ways Forward" section (3.9) provides advice for
the policy-making process. Clearly our WG needs (deserves) a presentation
at Abu Dhabi from Teresa Swinehart, who is heading up this effort.
Could this be done at the WG meeting on Wednesday 1 November?
Wednesday will be better attended, both in-person and remotely. (Some
members may still be in transit during the WG's early Saturday morning
meeting. And the Saturday meeting is at a challenging time for those
participating remotely -- ~6:30 a.m. Saturday morning in Europe / 12:30
a.m. Saturday East Coast USA.)
As part of the briefing, it would be good to hear about this effort's
schedule, workplan, and immediate next steps. The memo says: "We intend to
provide a series of memorandums, which will address different aspects of the
issue and where the scope and topics of each such memorandum will be
discussed and agreed with ICANN. We understand that ICANN intends to make
each memorandum publicly available."
All best,
--Greg
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] ICANN Legal Opinion on GDPR - Part 1
I want to call attention to the following paragraph:
"The memo highlights the complexity of these issues in the domain name
space, and concludes that the current open, publicly available WHOIS
services cannot remain unchanged. The WHOIS system has to become adaptable
to address the GDPR from the European perspective, as well as other changing
regulations around the world."
After input from Data Protection experts, the Wilson Sonsini memo and now
this memo, do any in the WG disagree with this statement?
Chuck
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Full Blog post is at
https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_data-2Dprotection-2Dand-2Dprivacy-2Dupdate&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=nNnwwtGCBeodKkce_rE8ZyN3Xi8vzsADKjJ2kom47TE&s=DvOLtn0qynQGm_PJJqPAff8ik1nW6jyXK8qKlhiwShk&e=>. Alan
At 19/10/2017 12:23 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
Perhaps it has already been posted, but if not, ICANN has received the
first part of the independent legal analysis of the GDPR in relation to
WHOIS that had been commissioned.
It can be found at
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-memorandum-part1-16oct[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_gdpr-2Dmemorandum-2Dpart1-2D16oct&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=nNnwwtGCBeodKkce_rE8ZyN3Xi8vzsADKjJ2kom47TE&s=o-mrj5zgXetUfqCDuQFd1ZI7VV5_gcGp14KQJ0UZQV0&e=>
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Alan
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