[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] another document that might be of interest

Wed Oct 25 14:36:26 UTC 2017

Hi Carlton,

I do not think DNS resolution would be affected by the removal of whois 
in its entirety as DNS continues to function with or without whois.

Volker

Am 25.10.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Carlton Samuels:
> In regard of contactability Volker I tend to agree with you. However, 
> I would also consider contactability within the larger scope; DNS 
> resolution. When any action undermines that objective, it speaks to an 
> even bigger scope, the security, stability and trustworthiness of the 
> DNS is undermined. Sensible and balanced policy prescriptives that 
> enable those objectives are in the best interest of all of us.
>
> -Carlton
>
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> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:57 AM, Volker Greimann 
> <vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Andrew,
>
>     no one is saying that it should be eliminated unless I missed it.
>     The focus is rather on reforming it to provide the essential
>     functions in a way that does not impact the basic rights of
>     registrants and others. Limiting full access to LEAs is one such
>     potential solution, rather simple to implement but with obvious
>     drawbacks to parties that have so far relied on full access. Other
>     methods may be better. Lets discuss them.
>
>     Contactability can be achieved by many means that do not require
>     publication of private details. And while contactibility is
>     desireable, some participants in the internet may simply not want
>     to be contactible. And that is reasonable too, as long as there is
>     no problem (as contactability is strictly speaking only a
>     necessity for resolving problems).
>
>     When you look at number of instances where someone really needed
>     to contact a domain owner for infrastructural reasons, how does
>     that number compare with the total number of registrations? Is it
>     a percentile, a thousandth, or even less than that?
>
>
>
>
>     Am 24.10.2017 um 21:46 schrieb Andrew Sullivan:
>
>         Dear colleagues,
>
>         On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 03:13:15PM -0400, Greg Shatan wrote:
>
>             This is a false dichotomy for several reasons.
>
>         [and a bunch of other stuff with which I largely agree].  On
>         top of
>         what Greg says, I think it a strange idea that registrants'
>         interests
>         are best served by eliminating a tool to increase the
>         reliability and
>         utility of domain name registrations.  Apart from (IMO parasitic)
>         domain name speculators, the whole point of registering a
>         domain name
>         is to function on the Internet.  As I have now said too often to
>         count, the Internet is partly novel becase it offers distributed
>         operation and management among operators with no necessary prior
>         contractual relationship, or even one that is available
>         transitively
>         through some other contract.  In order to get that kind of
>         operation,
>         certain tools are a _required_ feature.  One of them is that,
>         if you're
>         going to operate any infrastructure (and domain names are Internet
>         infrastructure), certain details about how to reach you are
>         just going
>         to be required.
>
>         We can certainly debate the best way to make that happen, and
>         how much
>         of it is necessary.  But I don't think it is ever going to be
>         completely optional, and I think anyone who thinks it can be
>         completely optional or for that matter not in registrants'
>         interests
>         needs to think a little harder about the operational and protocol
>         realities of the Internet as it exists now.
>
>         Best regards,
>
>         A
>
>
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