[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] More mandatory reading in preparation for ICANN AD

John Bambenek jcb at bambenekconsulting.com
Thu Oct 26 17:05:59 UTC 2017


That is not impossible. I disagree there are 25 checkboxes any more than there will be 25 checkboxes needed to post a tweet. 

The checkbox is “this information will be in a public database and accessible world-wide so others can verify domain ownership and contact you. If you don’t like this, click private registration now.”

There is no need to overcomplicate a simple issue. 

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John Bambenek

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 18:51, Theo Geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Let's see.
> Escrow requirements Registry/Registrar.
> Country depended/Company depended and security level depended.
> Data retention spec (tons of data gathered there)
> ICANN, running several WHOIS programs in conjunction with third-party vendors by GAC marching orders.
> WHOIS data being processed by unknown third parties given its current public access.
> Over a 1000 TLDs scattered over all over the globe.
> 
> A simple gTLD registration will require a registrant to click at least 25 checkboxes to consent too.
> This is a conservative prediction and not meant to tick off WG members.
> 
> Theo Geurts
> 
> 
>> On 26-10-2017 18:34, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg wrote:
>> Exactly how does this document say that consent is practically impossible when my reading of it provides guidance of how such consent could be achieved?
>> 
>> As far as private by default, SHOULD is not MUST. The document doesn’t say that’s a hard requirement.
>> 
>> --
>> John Bambenek
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2017, at 16:01, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Council of Europe has just published a guide on privacy and data protection principles specifically for ICANN related data processing.
>>> 
>>> TL;DR:
>>> 
>>> 1) Data controller needs to define twofold purposes for processing; a) related to policy; b) for contracted parties and their agreements with data subjects.
>>> 
>>> 2) Data controller is fully liable for all data processing performed in accordance with purpose statement in compliance with all applicable laws.
>>> 
>>> 3) Data processed for purposes not included in purpose statement is unlawful.
>>> 
>>> 4) Data processing must be limited by guiding principles of necessity, proportionality and purpose limitation
>>> 
>>> 5) Data processing based on consent is practically impossible in ICANN context.
>>> 
>>> 6) Personal data must not be stored for longer than absolutely necessary for the legitimate purpose pursued.
>>> 
>>> 7) ICANN needs formal data transfer policy for trans-border transfers.
>>> 
>>> 8) Privacy by design and default as basis for all processing considerations.
>>> 
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