[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Facebook loses Belgian court case over consent and tracking

[Sam Lanfranco]

Benny,

This is why I support multi-venue multi-stakholder dialogue with the 
DPA's so that they are appraised of the issues on all sides of the data 
protection issue. They are then more likely to act in a judicious 
manner, and less like an attack dog. Watch the new movie "*/The Post/*" 
where when /Washington Post/ owner Katharine Graham decided to publish 
the Vietnam War Pentagon Papers, with the downside risk that she could 
be jailed for treason. The court ruled in favor of freedom of the press. 
It is not what the DPA can do, but what they are likely to do, and 
dialogue goes a long way to mitigating risk and shaping appropriate 
positions and behavior (with integrity) on all sides.

Sam L.


On 2/19/2018 10:02 AM, benny at nordreg.se wrote:
> <ironi on> Now I am relieved, we as registrars will not be subject for 
> anything… </ironi off>
>
> None of us know where and what they will prioritise,*/remember that it 
> only take 1 complaint to a DPA to get the snowball moving./* [emphasis 
> added] I am sure your statement have noe value then.
>
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> Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen
>
> Benny Samuelsen
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>
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>> On 19 Feb 2018, at 15:29, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net 
>> <mailto:sam at lanfranco.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> No, completely to the contrary. My point with that dollars reference 
>> was that in some cases litigation is the preferred business response, 
>> rather than compliance and paying fines. Also, the big revenues in 
>> mining big data are outside the DNS sphere, and outside the abuses 
>> and "bad things" that websites do to people. The big EU fines are 
>> more likely to hit social media than Registrars, although they are 
>> risks there as well. The revenues, and privacy violations, will come 
>> from profiling users by mining big data for scraps of personal date 
>> to individualize target marketing.
>>
>> */As a brief aside:/* This goes well beyond the remit of ICANN and is 
>> actually worse than just being inundated by adverts base on personal 
>> online behavior. Artificial Intelligence mining apps are increasingly 
>> customizing the "news" one gets from news feeds, to help "glue the 
>> eyeballs" to the adverts, creating a news silo of one.  (That is 
>> amusing for me since I virtually live in two towns in two countries). 
>> Even more worrisome is the growing practice for A.I. companies where 
>> A.I. "writes" the news releases, now mainly in sports and finance, 
>> for thousands of print and online news outlets. I know all of this is 
>> outside the ICANN remit so I will stop there.
>>
>> Sam L.
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2018 5:43 PM, Chen, Tim wrote:
>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>> When you say these are hundred million dollar issues for "the 
>>> companies",which companies are you talking about?  Large Registrars?
>>>
>>> I hope you are not comparing cybersecurity professionals and the 
>>> good work they are trying to enable, to a completely separate 
>>> privacy issue around data used for ad tracking or behavior tracking 
>>> across websites.  If I spent my days trying to protect people on the 
>>> internet from bad things, I would certainly not appreciate any 
>>> allusion that I was engaged on the whois data issue 'for the money'.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>
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