[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Krebs On Security article RE whois and GDRP

John Bambenek jcb at bambenekconsulting.com
Wed Feb 21 22:16:22 UTC 2018


Privacy is having the ability to control what is known about you. You can find my cell phone number. That’s because I have chosen that. I don’t think a bunch of mostly white mostly upper middle class mostly north american and european people should decide for almost 7 billion people what choices THEY have with their own data. 

I am ok with a free privacy option for registrants. 

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John Bambenek

> On Feb 21, 2018, at 08:31, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br> wrote:
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>> Em 21 de fev de 2018, à(s) 11:22:000, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> escreveu:
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>> Often when we send in abuse reports to registries, those abuse reports are forwarded to criminals whole and entire with our names and contact information. That has lead to immediate attacks on the complaintant. For instance, some have been swatted (spoofed calls to police to generate and armed response where they kick in doors guns drawn). This has become so common place, many people either have stopped abuse complaints all together or use aliases to talk to registries.
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>> In a gated RDS, you will need to know exactly who we are and inherently know what we are looking at. Considering the history of the exact class of people who will have access to that information, what will YOU do to protect OUR privacy and security? Or can we expect now even our RDS queries will be forwarded to criminals also?
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>> The problem with “you people will figure it out” is that often, registries will take a hostile approach to “us”. If you (as a class) were willing to partner with us, genuinely, I bet we COULD accomplish the mission without RDS. The problem is the history is that at best we get neutrality, but far too often providers have instead, in effect, partnered with the criminals and that has resorted in far worse attacks on OUR privacy and security.
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> John,
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> Isn't your description a good advocacy piece for having privacy instead of ditching it ? The same privacy you would like to have, registrants would like to have, and currently they don't.
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> Rubens
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