[Gnso-rpm-data] [Ext] RE: conflicts

Tue Jan 9 14:18:14 UTC 2018

Dear all,

Many thanks to all of you who have provided guidance.  Based on the responses it is the staff’s understanding that we will not change the time of the meeting that is scheduled for this Thursday, 11 January, at 2200 UTC.  However, staff will take the action to circulate a Doodle to find a rotating time earlier on Friday that avoids an evening meeting time for members in Europe.

Kind regards,
Julie

On 1/8/18, 5:32 PM, "Corwin, Philip" <pcorwin at verisign.com> wrote:

    I agree that it is not reasonable to expect our European members to participate on calls during their Friday evening; the work week must end sometime.

    Philip S. Corwin
    Policy Counsel
    VeriSign, Inc.
    12061 Bluemont Way
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    703-948-4648/Direct
    571-342-7489/Cell

    "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Dorrain, Kristine via Gnso-rpm-data
    Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 4:45 PM
    To: Susan Payne <susan.payne at valideus.com>; Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>; J. Scott Evans <jsevans at adobe.com>; Michael Graham (ELCA) <migraham at expedia.com>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-data at icann.org
    Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts

    I support Susan.  I had thought we'd rotate between early Friday and less early Friday (from a Pacific time perspective), so I was also surprised that we ended up with a late Thursday time.  Both are good for eastern.  One better for Europe.  The only people who "suffer" are in Pacific time and I arrive for work at 7:30 am so no problem for me.  I could be here at 7 if need be.  I have a standing conflict at 10 am for 1/2 hour, that's it.  I vote we accommodate Europe.

    Kristine

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Susan Payne
    Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 1:11 PM
    To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>; J. Scott Evans <jsevans at adobe.com>; Michael Graham (ELCA) <migraham at expedia.com>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-data at icann.org
    Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts

    Speaking as someone in Europe I would say this rotation (10 - 11pm at night) is hardly for my benefit and is even worse for Lori.  I have made myself available for a call this Thursday and so I'm not particularly in favour of cancelling it at this point, but I would like the rotation reviewed as a general matter:
     - What we discussed was finding a replacement to the 7pm Friday slot.  Instead, that slot is being retained and the far more reasonable (if you are European) slot earlier on a Friday is the one that is being replaced.  I strongly object to that.
    - if we're largely given timeslots to vote on which are late at night in Europe it's no big surprise if they come out the winner. After this week, which is already arranged, I would like the poll done again, in a manner which actually recognises that not everyone is based in the US.

    thanks

    Susan Payne
    Head of Legal Policy | Valideus Ltd
    28-30 Little Russell Street
    London, WC1A 2HN, United Kingdom

    E: susan.payne at valideus.com
    D: +44 20 7421 8255
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    M: +44 7971 661175

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund
    Sent: 08 January 2018 20:59
    To: J. Scott Evans <jsevans at adobe.com>; Michael Graham (ELCA) <migraham at expedia.com>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-data at icann.org
    Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts

    J. Scott,

    Staff can confirm that the rotation was to accommodate those members for whom the Friday time did not work (such as those in Europe), but who could attend at the Thursday rotating time.

    Kind regards,
    Julie

    On 1/8/18, 3:56 PM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of J. Scott Evans via Gnso-rpm-data" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces at icann.org on behalf of gnso-rpm-data at icann.org> wrote:

        I thought this rotation was an accommodation to sub-team members in Europe. If so, I think we should hold to the current schedule.

        J. Scott Evans
        408.536.5336 (tel)
        345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544
        Director, Trademarks
        408.709.6162 (cell)
        San Jose, CA, 95110, USA
        Adobe. Make It an Experience.
        jsevans at adobe.com
        www.adobe.com

        On 1/8/18, 11:32 AM, "Gnso-rpm-data on behalf of Michael Graham (ELCA)" <gnso-rpm-data-bounces at icann.org on behalf of migraham at expedia.com> wrote:

            Although I have no preference, I'm concerned that changing at this point might lose some of the working group members.  Would members of the group please advise your preferences.

            Michael R.

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Gnso-rpm-data [mailto:gnso-rpm-data-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman
            Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:14 PM
            To: gnso-rpm-data at icann.org
            Subject: [Gnso-rpm-data] conflicts

            Hi All,

            The Data Subteam meeting on Thursday at its evening hour is going to create some conflicts. I have an event rescheduled from 1/4 when everything was canceled here due to snow and cold. I believe Rebecca has a conflict as well. Given the importance of the issues at hand, and with apologies, I would like to recommend that we reschedule to one of our more traditional Friday times for this meeting (and then move into a late Thursday time).

            Best, Kathy

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