[gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC

Julie Hedlund julie.hedlund at icann.org
Wed May 2 13:14:07 UTC 2018


Hi Kathy and All,

 

The questions were proposed by Paul Keating.  Staff has listed them below.

 

Kind regards,

Mary, Ariel, Berry and Julie

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Excerpted questions:

 

4.    Do you serve as a URS panelist?

 

A. Yes

B. No

 

5. If yes, do you undertake a law firm-wide conflicts check to verify that neither you nor your law firm has any actual or potentially adverse conflict of interest to the complainant and/or respondent?

 

A. Yes

B. No

 

If yes, please briefly describe the methods used to verify the absence of conflicts:___________________________________________________’

 

If yes, do you retain records of your search?

 

A. Yes

B. No

 

6. Have you ever communicated with a third party regarding an ongoing URS dispute in which you were a panelist?

 

A. Yes

B. No

 

If yes, please briefly explain the nature of such communications:_________________________

 

 

From: gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:09 AM
To: "gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC

 

Hi All,

Perhaps Greg or Staff could post the questions that Greg has raised as an issue in the Practitioners questionnaire (since they are not attached here)?  It is of course important to consider the Subteam review, but we also brought these questions to the full WG for a reason - to request input.

I don't remember who proposed the Examiner questions, but perhaps they could go offline with the Practitioners Subteam to work out a variation that would be acceptable to everyone. Staff, do you remember?

I am sure we can work this out with a little discussion... 

Best regards, Kathy

 

On 5/2/2018 1:04 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:

All,

 

I have significant objections to the questions to Examiners that were tacked on to the end of the Practitioners questionnaire at the 11th hour.  Apologies for not focusing on this before now.  I don't believe these have really been properly reviewed or discussed.

 

I believe these questions are inappropriate in a poll of practitioners, as these are questions directed to "panelists."   (The proper term is Examiner....) It feels like a "bait and switch" tactic.  If we are going to survey Examiners, let's survey Examiners -- not ambush practitioners.  On that basis alone, we should eliminate these questions.

 

I am also troubled by the questions themselves.  Singling out these questions, out of all that we might ask Examiners, seems vaguely accusatory.   

 

The basis for these questions is questionable.  I've reviewed the URS Procedures and Rules, and none of these questions comes out of a Procedure or Rule.  The Examiners are supposed to declare conflicts of interest, but there is no instruction on how to implement that.  As such, there is no requirement that an Examiner undertake any type of conflicts check much less something as specific as "a law firm-wide conflicts check to verify that neither you nor your law firm has any actual or potentially adverse conflict of interest to the complainant and/or respondent."  Asking the question implies that this is an imperative when it is not.

 

On top of that, this verbiage does not accurately describe a conflict check.  What is a "potentially adverse conflict of interest"? Why is it only asking about adverse conflicts?  I note that the Forum does have a Supplementary Rule that "A Examiner will be disqualified if circumstances exist that create a conflict of interest or cause the Examiner to be unfair and biased, including but not limited to ...  The Examiner has served as an attorney to any party or the Examiner has been associated with an attorney who has represented a party during that association."  This does not ask the Examiner to run a conflict check, but notably, the issue it raises is the exact opposite of the issue implied in these proposed questions -- the Forum is highlighting representing a party, not being adverse (much less "potentially adverse) to a party.

 

Now, I'm not saying it's a bad idea for an Examiner to run a (properly defined) conflict check, but the very fact that we are debating Examiner actions and requirements in a practitioners poll should tell us we're in the wrong place.

 

For that reason, I will not discuss the problems in the follow-up questions on conflict checks.

 

The final question is even worse. ("Have you ever communicated with a third party regarding an ongoing URS dispute in which you were a panelist?')  As far as I know, this is not prohibited behavior, especially not this broadly described.  It seems designed to make people feel like they might have done something wrong.  (If this is expressly prohibited by the Rules or Procedures, then perhaps we could fashion a question out of that Rule/Procedure if we were putting together a poll for Examiners.)  Is it improper to "communicate" with your spouse about a URS case?  With one of your law partners? With a fellow Examiner?

 

Long story short, these questions should be deleted.

 

Greg

 

 

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org> wrote:

Dear RPM PDP WG members,

 

Per the WG Co-Chairs, here is the proposed agenda for the Working Group call Wednesday, 02 May 2018, scheduled for 1700 UTC.  Times are proposed as estimates and may be adjusted.

 

Proposed Agenda:
Roll call and updates to Statements of Interest (1 minute) 
Final Status of Questions for Practitioners and Providers (9 minutes) 
Report from the Documents Sub Team (20 minutes) 
Discussion on URS Phase II proposal (59 minutes)  See John McElwaine’s original email at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-April/002857.html and a Google Sheet with the proposal as tab one, and the responses as tab two at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1apbVrFayn_vbPfhKDpjYs66iBWjvwhWFGZbuGpQnOgI/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com] 
Notice of agenda for 09 May meeting (1 minute) 
  

Best regards,

Mary, Julie, Ariel and Berry

 

 


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