[gnso-rpm-wg] Practitioners Questions Resolution REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC

Paul Keating Paul at law.es
Thu May 3 15:20:56 UTC 2018


Thank you Jason and I am sorry that this has resulted in a short delay.

As I have noted, if anyone has editing suggestions to the questions please
submit them.  My only concern is that the issue is raised by an appropriate
question to practitioners ­ whether or not I write it.

Paul


From:  Jason Schaeffer <jason at esqwire.com>
Date:  Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:51 PM
To:  Georges Nahitchevansky <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com>, Paul Keating
<paul at law.es>, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>, "Corwin, Philip
via gnso-rpm-wg" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
Cc:  "Kathy Kleiman (kathy at kathykleiman.com)" <kathy at kathykleiman.com>,
"Petter Rindforth (petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu)"
<petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>, "Scott Austin (SAustin at vlplawgroup.com)"
<SAustin at vlplawgroup.com>, "brian.beckham at wipo.int"
<brian.beckham at wipo.int>, "Julie Hedlund (julie.hedlund at icann.org)"
<julie.hedlund at icann.org>
Subject:  RE: Practitioners Questions Resolution [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER:
Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC

> All,
>  
> Please be advised that we are taking this topic offline and back to our
> Practitioners¹ subgroup volunteers, with Paul joining us to find a pathway
> forward.
>  
> We worked for many weeks to bring a suitable survey forward to the Sub Team
> and WG.  I¹m confident that we will be able to use same collaborative effort
> to improve upon the questions raised that does not raise such extreme
> objections.  
>  
> We will return to the WG shortly.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Jason
>  
> 
> From: gnso-rpm-wg [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
> Nahitchevansky, Georges
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 10:39 AM
> To: Paul Keating; Michael Karanicolas; Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>  
> Paul:
>  
> What you are doing is simply not productive or constructive.  I stand by my
> objections to your questions as drafted and want to make it clear that it is
> rather untoward of you to try to inject questions after the fact ­ and well
> after many hours were spent by many people to obtain a consensus on a group of
> questions ­ and to then cast stones at folks for objecting to your questions.
> Perhaps this is a litigation strategy that you typically use, but this is not
> the way we should be proceeding.  We obviously disagree on this point, so
> further missives on our positions are simply pointless.  We should take this
> off line and spare the working group the barrage of emails.  I suggest we
> proceed as Jason has suggested and set up a time with the practitioner
> subgroup to get this resolved so that a survey can be sent out to move things
> along.  Just let Jason know some times that might work and I and others will
> let him know as well.
>  
> Georges
> 
> From: Paul Keating [mailto:Paul at law.es]
> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 10:21 AM
> To: Nahitchevansky, Georges <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com>; Michael Karanicolas
> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>; Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg
> <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>  
> 
> You continue to respond by adding still further ³objections².  You never seem
> to be wiling to deal with the ones you have made and I have countered.  I can
> only presume that you have consented on the old objections and are now
> focusing on those set out below.
> 
>  
> 
> As to focus, the questions are directed entirely at the issue of impartiality.
> We have an obligation to investigate and the questions only seek to understand
> the extent to which panelists check for conflicts.  Conflicts checks are SOP
> for any practicing attorney and are simple to conduct.  It would take all of 2
> seconds to respond ³yes/no² and if yes simply write a short sentence on the
> nature of the process (which is not a trade secret).
> 
>  
> 
> As for turning people off from responding, I cannot imagine it doing so given
> the simplicity of the questions.   There are a limited number of practitioners
> who would be receiving these surveys and they are all identified in the
> relevant UDRP/URS decisions that are publicly available.
> 
>  
> 
> Relying on the Providers does not investigate the extent to which impartiality
> and the absence of conflicts exist.  That is like asking a judge if any of the
> attorneys had a conflict and the judge informing you ³well I asked them and
> they said no²Š
> 
>  
> 
> I will not reply further to your emails since they just seem to be an attempt
> to obstruct rather than constructively engage to address the issue.
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
>  
> 
> From: Georges Nahitchevansky <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com>
> Date: Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 3:04 PM
> To: Paul Keating <paul at law.es>, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>,
> "Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: RE: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
> 
>  
>> 
>> Paul:
>>  
>> You obviously misunderstand the whole point that is being made.  We have
>> questions that are ready to go and you and couple of others suddenly pop up
>> with last minute additions that have built in biases.  The point that is
>> being made is really quite simple.  The issue is whether the URS panelists
>> appointed are impartial.  That is what the inquiry should be focused on.  My
>> comments are meant to show that anyone could come up with loaded questions ­
>> and I provided a couple of examples that you might be able to understand.  As
>> I said, these types of questions are not productive and will likely turn
>> people off to the survey.  So in my view these type of questions should be
>> avoided and should not be included in the practitioner or provider surveys.
>> Questions regarding impartiality and how providers assure such should be in
>> the provider section ­ and has been discussed by folks already.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> rom: Paul Keating [mailto:Paul at law.es]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:45 AM
>> To: Nahitchevansky, Georges <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com>; Michael Karanicolas
>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>; Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg
>> <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
>> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>>  
>> 
>> Your true colors are showing.  You are simply repeating a mantra that is
>> based upon subjectively flawed and illogical presumptions.  I believe you
>> have an ulterior motive of simply delaying things.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If you have some suggested questions please present them.  Otherwise I will
>> simply ignore your comments.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
>> <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> > on behalf of Georges Nahitchevansky
>> <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com <mailto:ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com> >
>> Date: Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:23 AM
>> To: Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mkaranicolas at gmail.com> >, "Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg"
>> <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org> >
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
>> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> Yes it is incredible that some want to include loaded and biased questions
>>> that are full of assumptions.  In that vein, should we ask practitioners if
>>> they have ever lied in the papers they submitted in a matter and what
>>> specific steps they take to make sure that what they say is truthful.  How
>>> about a question to practitioners about whether they have ever orchestrated
>>> measures beyond an appeal to deprive a successful claimant from being able
>>> to secure a domain name won in a proceeding.  The point is that there are
>>> many loaded questions full of assumptions that can be asked to create issues
>>> to further an agenda.  a better way of approaching the issue of impartiality
>>> without throwing out questions that assume a wrong exists is to simply focus
>>> on the concept of impartiality per the Rules as opposed to crafting and
>>> revising questions that have underlying assumptions not grounded in the
>>> rules. What would have been great is if the folks that posit these 11th hour
>>> questions had bothered to join the subgroups who worked very hard to get a
>>> set of questions that would be answered.  Sweeping in at the 11th hour with
>>> these loaded questions, and when there is limited opportunity to discuss, is
>>> not productive. If it was that important of an issue you would think that
>>> these folks would have joined the groups and raised these issues.  They
>>> didn't so I really ask why the loaded questions at this point.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: gnso-rpm-wg [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Karanicolas
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:57 PM
>>> To: Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
>>> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Incredible. This looks like the exact same kabuki we just went through on
>>> the providers doc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Once again, it's the same tactic of trying to equate a basic and general
>>> question with a personal attack against individual panelists/examiners.
>>> Somehow, I doubt that the recipients of this survey will faint with outrage
>>> at the temerity of being asked about their conflict of interest procedures.
>>> The question does not presume that they are acting in an improper manner -
>>> it asks how they're acting. If they have proper conflict procedures in
>>> place, I can't believe they would be shy about saying as much.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I also see the same arguments that the responses will be meaningless or
>>> frivolous (which is funny, considering how people are fighting tooth and
>>> nail to exclude the line of inquiry), and the same protests against imagined
>>> policy debates that might flow from the information.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> And, buried amidst the hyperbole, are a few substantive claims addressing
>>> the wording of these questions. So why don't we all save a bit of time and
>>> focus on how the questions can be improved to be better targeted and
>>> accurate? I've made a couple of suggested edits, based on Greg's objections.
>>> It would be great to try and build forward with actual, constructive
>>> suggestions on wording that people can live with.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Or we can keep going in circles...
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Nahitchevansky, Georges
>>> <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Paul:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Your questions are loaded questions that have a bias that panelists are not
>>>> properly vetting conflicts.  As a California attorney you know fully well
>>>> that your questions go well beyond the norm.  When was the last time you
>>>> were asked to detail your conflict procedures -- apart from when there is
>>>> an actual challenge by a party claiming a conflict of interest.  By the
>>>> same token as an attorney representing parties in URS and UDRP proceedings
>>>> you must have done a conflict check.  Should we be looking into what all
>>>> parties do in regards to conflict checks.  Attorneys are not asked because
>>>> they are are covered by an ethical obligation and unless someone challenges
>>>> on the ground of conflict it is presumed that they did a proper check.
>>>> Similarly, Judges all over the world are presumed to have done a conflict
>>>> check and to recuse themselves if a conflict exists.  When is the last you
>>>> asked a judge to explain what they did and what procedures they have in
>>>> place before taking on a case. You presume they conducted a proper check
>>>> and challenge if you believe a conflict of interest.  The same should apply
>>>> in the URS context. URS panelists should not be put into a separate
>>>> category that goes beyond what attorneys and judges do. The panelists
>>>> typicallly attest to the fact that they have no conflict.  If someone feels
>>>> otherwise, they can always challenge the panelist appointment.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> The bottom line is that this entire issue you are trying to inject here is
>>>> part and parcel of some notion that panelists are not acting in an
>>>> impartial manner ias required by the URS rules.  The questions of such
>>>> whether panelists are acting impartially should be directed to the
>>>> providers, who can answer more appropriately on this issue and what they
>>>> require of panelists.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> One other basic problem with your questions, is that many answers will be
>>>> meaningless as they will simply be yes we have appropriate procedures in
>>>> place.  You may get a handful of more detailed responses, but then we will
>>>> be arguing for months on end about whether procedures are sufficient or not
>>>> etc.  We are not here to rewrite the procedures firms take to run conflict
>>>> checks.  Again, the issue is about having impartial panelists and what
>>>> steps are taken to make sure that is the case.  As in my judge example
>>>> above, if you were going to go down this path of inquiry you would ask a
>>>> judicial commission to advise on what they do to have impartial judges.
>>>> That is the more relevant and productive inquiry.  So again I stress that
>>>> these questions should be removed.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Lastly, I am glad you agree that there should be ramifications for
>>>> attorneys or others acting for parties for filing false statements,
>>>> supporting parties that hide behind bogus contact information, or fail to
>>>> disclose their own interests in a matter. Maybe we should ask practitioners
>>>> if they feel their should be meaningful sanctions for such behavior and the
>>>> type of sanctions.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> From:Paul at law.es <mailto:Paul at law.es>
>>>> Sent: May 2, 2018 10:39 AM
>>>> To:ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com <mailto:ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com> ;
>>>> gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> ;
>>>> julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>>> Cc:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
>>>> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry but I do not see what you see.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> The questions are neutral questions asking for a fact-based reply.  They do
>>>> not presume anything.  This is clear from reading the qualifying questions
>>>> at issue.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding some panelists not being attorneys, I have several responses.
>>>> Primarily, given that the UDRP/URS is founded in legal principles, I
>>>> question the use of those without legal training.  Further, conflicts
>>>> checking is not limited to attorneys.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding your suggestion that attorneys confirm who they are representing
>>>> when domains use false WHOIS data or privacy, rest assured.  There are
>>>> plenty of rules and regulations that require an attorney to verify the
>>>> identity of clients ­ the least of which are the regulations concerning
>>>> money laundering.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding the fact-checking, I am fine with your suggestion - as long as it
>>>> applies to both complainants and to respondents.  Personally, I am troubled
>>>> by the fact that representatives can even provide a certification when they
>>>> themselves have no personal knowledge.  I presume that allowing such a
>>>> process in the UDRP/URS space grew out of the trademark practice (where
>>>> providing such certifications to the registration authorities is a common
>>>> practice).  However, if you want to change it that is fine with me ­ as
>>>> long as it applies to both sides.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> As to the proposal to limit inquiry to those clearly provided under the
>>>> rules, that is not consistent with our marching orders.  In fact if we took
>>>> that approach to everything we would be left without much to investigate.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> To conclude, I would submit that it is really your comments that are the
>>>> loaded ones and intended to prevent an inquiry into a legitimate issue.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> > on behalf of Georges
>>>> Nahitchevansky <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com
>>>> <mailto:ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com> >
>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 2:28 PM
>>>> To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>>>> >, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>>> >
>>>> Cc: "gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org> "
>>>> <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org> >
>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
>>>> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear All:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Below are the questions being referred to. I likewise object to these
>>>>> questions which have an underlying assumption that Panelists are somehow
>>>>> biased and don¹t screen conflicts properly.  It also assumes that the
>>>>> panelists are all attorneys at law firms and the law firms do not have
>>>>> proper screening mechanisms for conflicts.  Simply put, most of these
>>>>> questions are loaded questions that are meant to further a particular
>>>>> agenda.  If we are going to go down the route of these type of loaded
>>>>> questions, should we also be asking about attorneys, for example,  who
>>>>> represent parties that registered names with bogus contact information
>>>>> whether they conducted a thorough check so that they can certify that they
>>>>> truthfully identified the party they are representing and how they
>>>>> conducted that check (e.g., what mechanisms are in place and all steps
>>>>> taken).  After all the ethical rules make clear that attorneys are bound
>>>>> by requirements that attorneys be truthful.  In that vein, should we also
>>>>> ask whether the attorneys representing parties have been truthful and
>>>>> checked the facts that they are stating in their papers ­ and what steps
>>>>> they take to certify and insure this.  I can think of several examples I
>>>>> personally know of where an attorney simply lied in the submissions.
>>>>> Should this now be an entire line of inquiry.  Should we ask whether Rule
>>>>> 11 type sanctions be available in URS cases where an attorney representing
>>>>> a party is found to represent a party with fake contact information or has
>>>>> lied in the papers.  I can think of many more loaded lines of inquiries if
>>>>> that what some want to do, but ultimately I don¹t think these are going to
>>>>> be productive in moving the ball forward.
>>>>>  
>>>>> In light of the questions that were suggested on the provider side of
>>>>> things, I think the only issue to raise is whether Panelists are impartial
>>>>> per the requirements of the rules and what providers do to make sure that
>>>>> is the case ­ and nothing more, .  These questions should not be here and
>>>>> should be deleted in their entirety
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 4.    Do you serve as a URS panelist?
>>>>>  
>>>>> A. Yes
>>>>> B. No
>>>>>  
>>>>> 5. If yes, do you undertake a law firm-wide conflicts check to verify that
>>>>> neither you nor your law firm has any actual or potentially adverse
>>>>> conflict of interest to the complainant and/or respondent?
>>>>>  
>>>>> A. Yes
>>>>> B. No
>>>>>  
>>>>> If yes, please briefly describe the methods used to verify the absence of
>>>>> conflicts:___________________________________________________¹
>>>>>  
>>>>> If yes, do you retain records of your search?
>>>>>  
>>>>> A. Yes
>>>>> B. No
>>>>>  
>>>>> 6. Have you ever communicated with a third party regarding an ongoing URS
>>>>> dispute in which you were a panelist?
>>>>>  
>>>>> A. Yes
>>>>> B. No
>>>>>  
>>>>> If yes, please briefly explain the nature of such
>>>>> communications:_________________________
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: gnso-rpm-wg [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>> <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 1:05 AM
>>>>> To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org
>>>>> <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org> >
>>>>> Cc: gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group
>>>>> call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have significant objections to the questions to Examiners that were
>>>>> tacked on to the end of the Practitioners questionnaire at the 11th hour.
>>>>> Apologies for not focusing on this before now.  I don't believe these have
>>>>> really been properly reviewed or discussed.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I believe these questions are inappropriate in a poll of practitioners, as
>>>>> these are questions directed to "panelists."   (The proper term is
>>>>> Examiner....) It feels like a "bait and switch" tactic.  If we are going
>>>>> to survey Examiners, let's survey Examiners -- not ambush practitioners.
>>>>> On that basis alone, we should eliminate these questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am also troubled by the questions themselves.  Singling out these
>>>>> questions, out of all that we might ask Examiners, seems vaguely
>>>>> accusatory.  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> The basis for these questions is questionable.  I've reviewed the URS
>>>>> Procedures and Rules, and none of these questions comes out of a Procedure
>>>>> or Rule.  The Examiners are supposed to declare conflicts of interest, but
>>>>> there is no instruction on how to implement that.  As such, there is no
>>>>> requirement that an Examiner undertake any type of conflicts check much
>>>>> less something as specific as "a law firm-wide conflicts check to verify
>>>>> that neither you nor your law firm has any actual or potentially adverse
>>>>> conflict of interest to the complainant and/or respondent."  Asking the
>>>>> question implies that this is an imperative when it is not.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On top of that, this verbiage does not accurately describe a conflict
>>>>> check.  What is a "potentially adverse conflict of interest"? Why is it
>>>>> only asking about adverse conflicts?  I note that the Forum does have a
>>>>> Supplementary Rule that "A Examiner will be disqualified if circumstances
>>>>> exist that create a conflict of interest or cause the Examiner to be
>>>>> unfair and biased, including but not limited to ...  The Examiner has
>>>>> served as an attorney to any party or the Examiner has been associated
>>>>> with an attorney who has represented a party during that association."
>>>>> This does not ask the Examiner to run a conflict check, but notably, the
>>>>> issue it raises is the exact opposite of the issue implied in these
>>>>> proposed questions -- the Forum is highlighting representing a party, not
>>>>> being adverse (much less "potentially adverse) to a party.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, I'm not saying it's a bad idea for an Examiner to run a (properly
>>>>> defined) conflict check, but the very fact that we are debating Examiner
>>>>> actions and requirements in a practitioners poll should tell us we're in
>>>>> the wrong place.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> For that reason, I will not discuss the problems in the follow-up
>>>>> questions on conflict checks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> The final question is even worse. ("Have you ever communicated with a
>>>>> third party regarding an ongoing URS dispute in which you were a
>>>>> panelist?')  As far as I know, this is not prohibited behavior, especially
>>>>> not this broadly described.  It seems designed to make people feel like
>>>>> they might have done something wrong.  (If this is expressly prohibited by
>>>>> the Rules or Procedures, then perhaps we could fashion a question out of
>>>>> that Rule/Procedure if we were putting together a poll for Examiners.)  Is
>>>>> it improper to "communicate" with your spouse about a URS case?  With one
>>>>> of your law partners? With a fellow Examiner?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Long story short, these questions should be deleted.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear RPM PDP WG members,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Per the WG Co-Chairs, here is the proposed agenda for the Working Group
>>>>>> call Wednesday, 02 May 2018, scheduled for 1700 UTC.  Times are proposed
>>>>>> as estimates and may be adjusted.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Proposed Agenda:
>>>>>> 1. Roll call and updates to Statements of Interest (1 minute)
>>>>>> 2. Final Status of Questions for Practitioners and Providers (9 minutes)
>>>>>> 3. Report from the Documents Sub Team (20 minutes)
>>>>>> 4. Discussion on URS Phase II proposal (59 minutes)  See John McElwaine¹s
>>>>>> original email at:
>>>>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-April/002857.html and a
>>>>>> Google Sheet with the proposal as tab one, and the responses as tab two
>>>>>> at: 
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1apbVrFayn_vbPfhKDpjYs66iBWjvwhWFG
>>>>>> ZbuGpQnOgI/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> 5. Notice of agenda for 09 May meeting (1 minute)
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Mary, Julie, Ariel and Berry
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
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