[gnso-rpm-wg] Procedures for RPM Working Group Co-Chair Selection

Sun May 6 22:06:59 UTC 2018

 I don't know if anyone but George thinks these questions are relevant or
appropriate in the context of selecting a new Co-Chair.

Just in case anyone else does, the change in the WIPO page answers George's
questions -- it would go something like this.  (Not to get in the way if
Brian decides to answer these questions himself.)

*1. Will [Brian] have WIPO update that page to list those additional
court cases?*

*No.*

*2. If not, why not?*

*For those "additional court cases" that merely record party
settlements: Given that a range of case-specific factors may impact court
orders recording party settlements following a UDRP case, such cases are
generally not listed here."  Consistent with this clarification of the
page's mission, the lawsociety.com <http://lawsociety.com> settlement has
been deleted.  *

*For the other "additional court case": The page only lists "select court
cases"; it is not intended to list all relevant cases.  This limited
mission has been clarified by removing conflicting language that might have
been misinterpreted to mean that the goal was to list "all relevant
cases." *

So it seems that the lawsociety.com was an anomaly and not a precedent, and
that my understanding of the intent of the list was correct: like virtually
every other list of cases that I have ever seen, used or created, it was
intended only to list decisions of the courts. Glad I didn't entertain the
invitation to "cut my losses," since I had no losses to cut.  :-)

Is this where I say:

*AND BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!*

Best regards,

Greg

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:10 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:

> P.S. To supplement my own question, I notice WIPO *has* updated their page
> at:
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> http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/challenged/
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> "This page lists select court cases known to have been issued
> following a UDRP decision. Given that a range of case-specific factors
> may impact court orders recording party settlements following a UDRP
> case, such cases are generally not listed here."
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> Whereas it used to say:
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> https://web.archive.org/web/20170918230523/http://www.
> wipo.int/amc/en/domains/challenged/
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> "This section captures select court orders and decisions in relation
> to the UDRP or specific UDRP cases that have come to the attention of
> the WIPO Arbitration and Mediation Center. While efforts are made to
> keep this list up-to-date, the Center cannot guarantee that it
> includes all relevant cases.
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> Court cases that are pending or for which no order/decision is
> available are not published on this list."
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> Oh, and they actually *took down* the lawsociety.com case, yet didn't
> add the MoobiTalk.com case (which still fits their brand new
> standard).
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> Sincerely,
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> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269
> http://www.leap.com/
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> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 2:04 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
> > My specific questions for Brian go back to my earlier post:
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> > https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-April/002940.html
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> > Will he have WIPO update that page to list those additional court
> > cases? If not, why not?
> >
> > Sincerely,
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> > George Kirikos
> > 416-588-0269
> > http://www.leap.com/
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> > On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
> wrote:
> >> Dear Working Group members,
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> >> On behalf of the Co-Chairs of this PDP Working Group, it might be
> helpful to
> >> reiterate the procedures in the Working Group Guidelines (see also
> below)
> >> for selecting a Co-Chair.  Given those procedures and the fact that
> there is
> >> no requirement to hold an election if one is not deemed necessary, here
> is
> >> the suggestion to the Working Group for proceeding with the Co-Chair
> >> selection process:
> >>
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> >>
> >> 1.      Until end of day 08 May Working Group members should send either
> >> their objections to Brian Beckham’s becoming a co-chair and/or specific
> >> questions for Brian to the list;
> >>
> >> 2.      If no objections or questions are received, or Brian chooses to
> >> answer any specific questions that come in before or during the 09 May
> >> meeting, the Working Group will have the opportunity to confirm Brian’s
> >> appointment during the 09 May meeting. In fairness to Brian, we strongly
> >> urge that any questions for him be submitted in writing by COB on May 8.
> >>
> >> 3.      If objections are received or questions submitted that warrant a
> >> discussion/response on a call, these be addressed at the 9 May meeting
> at
> >> which next steps can also be decided (including an election if need be).
> >>
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> >> Best regards,
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> >> Mary, Ariel, Berry, and Julie
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> >> GNSO Working Group Guidelines:
> >> https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-
> guidelines-30jan18-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> “2.1.4.2   Election of the WG Leaders
> >>
> >>  Unless a Chair has already been named by the Chartering Organization,
> >> normally a Chair will be selected at the first meeting of the WG. Until
> that
> >> time, the Chartering Organization’s liaison may fulfill the role of
> interim
> >> Chair.  A Working Group may elect to have Co-Chairs and Vice-Chairs.
> Under
> >> extraordinary circumstances, ICANN staff may be requested to perform
> >> administrative co- ordination of the WG until such time a Chair can be
> >> appointed. Once selected, a Working Group Chair will need to be
> confirmed by
> >> the Chartering Organization (CO).  The newly elected Chair will act on a
> >> provisional basis until the Chartering Organization has confirmed the
> >> appointment.  If there are any objections to the selected Chair, the CO
> will
> >> conduct a vote to establish whether there is sufficient support for the
> >> selected Chair according to the voting procedures of the CO.  If not,
> the
> >> Working Group will be requested to reconsider their choice for Chair and
> >> return to the CO with a new proposal.  In the unlikely event that the
> >> selected Chair is rejected by the CO, the CO must articulate its reason
> for
> >> the rejection and the WG must be able to ask for reconsideration of the
> >> decision. (Emphasis added)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Section 2.2: A suggested procedure to conduct elections may be:
> >>
> >> Nominations or self-nominations;
> >> Statements of qualifications from candidates, which sets forth the
> >> qualifications, qualities and experience that they possess that will
> serve
> >> the particular WG;
> >> Vote by simple majority;
> >> Notification of and subsequent confirmation by the Chartering
> Organization
> >> of results of actions”
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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