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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear TPR Working Group,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please find below the notes and action items from today’s TPR meeting on Tuesday, 17 August 2021 at 16:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The next meeting will be <b>Tuesday, 24 August at 16:00 UTC</b>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Emily, Caitlin, Berry, and Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>Action Items</u></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b> <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><b>ACTION ITEM: In preparation for the next meeting on 24 August WG members to provide suggested language for changes to the current losing FOA policy in the working document along with those
provided on page 3 at: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing</a>.
<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></o:p></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>Notes:<o:p></o:p></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></o:p></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Transfer Policy Review Phase 1 - Meeting #</span>13 – Tuesday, 17 August at 16:00 UTC</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">1. Roll Call & SOI Updates (5 minutes)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">2. Welcome & Chair updates (5 minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">3. Continued discussion of Losing FOA (75 minutes)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!sL5HoXRh7ICDngjSw0b6tYPzRdnomY4_cEaDlHaVXSaJj388n9ThE3uH86oMprZa9caFhfWLUw$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!sL5HoXRh7ICDngjSw0b6tYPzRdnomY4_cEaDlHaVXSaJj388n9ThE3uH86oMprZa9caFhfWLUw$">Losing
FOA working document [docs.google.com]</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) comments – Steinar Grotterod on Outcomes of CPWG discussions: (Link to the Losing FOA working document:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit</a> )<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Held discussions and polls.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Outcome is that CPWG agreed to keep the losing FOA as mandatory.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">What the CPWG is: Policy members from the At-Large community. Report every week to the ALAC and bring questions back to the CPWG. Helps to avoid making personal decisions on behalf of At-Large.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Discussion</u>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Great that ALAC is having these discussions and we hope that the other groups are doing the same thing.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Question: Why is the losing FOA important to preserve as a mandate for At-Large? Answer: It helps protect the registrant. When the losing FOA is sent, if the registrant hasn’t initiated the transfer when the registrant gets the
losing FOA notification it can stop the transfer. So it provides added security.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Agree that the losing registrar should be required to notify the domain owner about the transfer. But I don't think the losing FOA should be required for approval/denial.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Question re: losing FOA being generated by the incumbent registrar. Need to document a distinction: If the TAC is provided to the registrant and the TAC is the authorization is allowed to take place. Then for the FOA to be an
extra layer of security then it needs to go somewhere other than to the entity (registrant for example) who got the TAC. Otherwise it is not an additional layer of security.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">We should use the losing FOA to notify the registrant. But not to approve/deny the transfer (that's the TAC).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">TAC will be given to account holder. Loosing FOA will be sent to registrant e-mail. If we keep that practice sometimes it will be different entities and sometimes it will be the same entity.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Question: If the losing FOA is maintained, what if it is just a notification but doesn’t slow down the transfer? Answer: That is good, but not if we have to wait 5 days.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The losing registrar should send it as a notification of a transfer and build in a transfer reversal process. Require it but not the 5-day delay.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Depends on how much security you need. Depends on how big is the security problem.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">At-Large CPWG will not necessarily vote against improvement of the losing FOA, just that there should be a message to the registrant and the losing FOA is one way to do that.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">In thinking this through, there are some circumstances of a frictionless transfer – where the registrant has opted into a fast transfer. So in those circumstances it is an opt out of the usual notifications. If there were a
deliberate process for the registrant to opt out of notifications what would the At-Large think about that.?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Maybe don’t call it a FOA, but just a notification. Is important for the losing registrar to send it. Retain the FOA if we are changing it to a notification.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">We should rename it and change it to just a notification.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">In the At-Large CPWG we are in favor for there to be a way for the registrant to be able to stop the transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">There has to be some reverse process, and boundaries around it to make sure people are not abusing it.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">For rewriting the losing FOA, we should make required elements, but not actual required form/content. The current version is unwieldy.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">In building a reversal process need to determine what to do if a renewal is involved.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Right now the compliance for the mandate is very strict. Should be guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">WG members should put suggested language in the working document.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><b>Draft Straw Poll Questions - Losing FOA</b>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">1. Does the Losing FOA serve a security function? -- 20 Responses<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes, and it is important that the Losing FOA continues to serve this function --20 %
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l14 level1 lfo10">
Yes, but this function can be served through other measures -- 55%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l14 level1 lfo10">
No, it does not serve this function --15 %<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l14 level1 lfo10">
Not sure/Needs further discussion -- 10%<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Discussion</u>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Several ccTLDs do not have this form of authorization. We haven’t looked at their experiences. Not sure if this provides security.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">At lot of the large ccTLD operators do not use the FOA.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">This seems to be a weak form of security. Better if the registrar has a control panel with two-factor authentication.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hard to compare ccTLDs and gTLDs. There are some differences.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">There are several options. There is a notice before the transfer happens, there is a notice after a transfer might occur. There is a version of the losing FOA that includes a link or means to decline the transfer. Then a version
of that to approve the transfer. Took the question to refer to the latter of the two options. We should be explicit about what we are agreeing.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Note that the transfer isn’t one thing, it has multiple factors in it.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The FOA was meant to ack or nack a transfer, it was not a security feature and as a security feature it is rather weak<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">2. Does the Losing FOA serve a notification function? -- 21 Responses<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes, and it is important that the Losing FOA continues to serve this function --62 %<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo11">
Yes, but this function can be served through other measures -- 38% <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo11">
No, it does not serve this function -- 0% <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo11">
Not sure/Needs further discussion -- 0% <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Discussion:<o:p></o:p></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Maybe the language in the RAA needs to be changed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Seems like everyone agrees.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">3. Does the Losing FOA serve a “paper trail” function? -- 20 Responses<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes, and it is important that the Losing FOA continues to serve this function -- 35%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo12">
Yes, but this function can be served through other measures -- 45%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo12">
No, it does not serve this function -- 15%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo12">
Not sure/Needs further discussion -- 5%<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Discussion</u>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Not sure it provides a paper trail. A positive or negative response is not necessary for the transfer to occur.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes, need to keep records. So not exactly full email, but copy of template and log about sending the FOA<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Shouldn’t be too restrictive as to the type of communication. Should allow registrars to implement as they see fit.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Registrant should be able to choose their notification method.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">In terms of record keeping don’t see how it is useful to show that the registrant acknowledged a transfer on day X.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The new notification email should not require action on the registrant's part (it's just a notification).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">When we say “record keeping” what level are we talking about?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">When we are talking about the losing FOA there are options in the marketplace where a registrant deliberately opts into a pre-authorization of a transfer. There could be legitimate reasons to not have these types of transfer
notifications. Should allow frictionless transfers without requiring notification.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN Org (Compliance): FOAs currently are only a notification and the losing the FOA only goes to the account holder. The registrant does not have the option to deny a transfer. The FOA is only a notification.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo17">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">4. Does the Losing FOA serve another function not listed in previous questions? -- 21 Responses<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes -- 5%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo13">
No -- 67%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo13">
Not sure/Needs further discussion -- 29%<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Discussion</u>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Have had experiences in the last year where we’ve needed someone to forward the FOA email. There are some legitimate scenarios where the FOA helps to ensure that a transfer is done reliably.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Seems to be general agreement that the FOA is not needed in other circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">5. Should the Losing FOA continue to be required? -- 23 Responses<o:p></o:p></p>
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It should be required as-is -- 4%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo14">
It should be required but updated/changed -- 57%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo14">
It should be eliminated as a requirement, but other measures are needed to serve certain functions -- 30%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo14">
It should be eliminated as a requirement with no additional measures to replace it -- 4%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo14">
Not sure/Needs further discussion -- 4%<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Discussion</u>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Think we are leaning to yes, but it needs to be updated and modified.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">6. If you no longer support the Losing FOA as a requirement, would you support it as an optional resource for the Losing Registrar, i.e., “Losing Registrar MAY confirm the intent of the Registered
Name Holder…”? -- 19 Responses<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes -- 47%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l13 level1 lfo15">
No -- 26%<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l13 level1 lfo15">
Not sure/Needs further discussion -- 26%<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Discussion</u>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Really interesting idea. Could see a situation where a registrar wants to have additional security. Should be allowed with some parameters/boundaries, so it doesn’t become prohibitive.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">If we make the losing FOA possible we should add the requirement that it should be as easy to acknowledge or deny a transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt"><u>Summary</u>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Agree that it needs to be updated.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Needs flexibility to grow.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">If we see losing FOA as optional, then the TAC will be mandatory.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">We could provide required points and an optional template (which covers those required points).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">We should split these up: The registrar transfer notification is required, and the losing FOA is optional.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Need a few people to write down thoughts on changes to the losing FOA – such as name change, options versus mandatory, etc. Bring these suggestion to the next call for discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Add to what Sarah has provided in page 3 of the document at:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Question: Can the losing FOA be used for bulk transfers?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Seems like instead of it being an FOA, it could be a notification as when you change your email.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Seems like each domain name should have its own unique transfer notification – but we could leave it up to registrars to design the system to allow bulk transfers.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo18">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Think bulk transfer is permitted now, we can leave it as it is now.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<b>ACTION ITEM: In preparation for the next meeting on 24 August WG members to provide suggested language for changes to the current losing FOA policy in the working document along with those provided on page 3 at:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wCUMe9ii6g05kUZ558IuUvJaS6K2t0GZJYvlfOy-raY/edit?usp=sharing</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">5. AOB (5 minutes)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:18.0pt">- Next meeting: 24 August 2021 @ 16.00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
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