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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear TPR WG members,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Please find below the notes and action items from today’s meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Leadership along with the WG will consider whether to cancel the next meeting on<span style="color:black"> Tuesday,
</span>31<span style="color:black"> May 2022 at 16:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><span style="color:black">Emily, Julie, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color:black"><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color:black">Action Items</span><o:p></o:p></u></b></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WG members to review the draft questions and text on recommendation 13.1 for public comment and provide comments/suggestions if any.
See: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-iMcSboPsoTCHYye_u0uVmaVgNiOP7FKYXkO3FWhY2c/edit">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-iMcSboPsoTCHYye_u0uVmaVgNiOP7FKYXkO3FWhY2c/edit</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></b></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Staff to send to the WG list the latest version of the draft Initial Report (that which was sent after the WG meeting on 17 May)
– COMPLETE; SEE ATTACHED.<o:p></o:p></span></b></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Leadership along with the WG will consider whether to cancel the next meeting on Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 16:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></b></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>Notes</u>:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Transfer Policy Review Phase 1</span>(a)<span style="color:black"> - Meeting #4</span>8</b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>24<span style="color:black"> May 2022</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1. Roll Call & SOI updates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2. Welcome and Chair Updates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Roger Carney, Chair -- Rec 13.1: Overview:<o:p></o:p></span>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">With disagreement on where the TTL enforcement should be done the staff has been working on a question for the public comment period.
Link to Google Doc for Community Question regarding standard TTL: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-iMcSboPsoTCHYye_u0uVmaVgNiOP7FKYXkO3FWhY2c/edit">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-iMcSboPsoTCHYye_u0uVmaVgNiOP7FKYXkO3FWhY2c/edit</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Note that public comment is constructed with a survey with community questions by topic. This was followed for the EPDP for registration
data.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Includes notes for the community, including what is a TTL and what are the WG proposals, and why the registry was originally proposed
to enforce. WG members also can respond in the public comment period.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Google doc with the question is open for WG members to comment. Note that we are trying to keep the question and proposals brief.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
</li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin, RySG:<o:p></o:p></span>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">For the record – did not realize that the WG was seeking a formal RySG group position.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Would a position – other than informally that there is not support for this – result in a different action?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Clarifying question: Does this mean that rec 13.1 will stay stated as is in the public comment?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
</li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Roger Carney, Chair:<o:p></o:p></span>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There was no formal call for action, but we were expecting WG members to consult with their groups.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Intent is to go to public comment with it as written and an official comment wouldn’t change that, but groups can comment in the public
comment forum.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
</li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></span>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">One proposal could be to put the TTL into the hash itself.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Embedding the TTL into the TAC was discussed by the TechOps group.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">That could also be guidance for the IRT.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We are looking for broad feedback in the public comment, but targeted feedback from the respective SGs and Cs. After the public comment
period closes the WG will review all the comments and evaluate whether changes are needed to the draft Initial Report that was posted for public comment.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The next phase of the process is to get us closer to consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Galvin, RySG: Statement for the record. I believed I was following the process. We all have an obligation to keep up with the
work, but I missed the point at which 13.1 was closed. RySG has objected to this recommendation from the beginning, so perhaps I missed a possibility to bring this back to the agenda. I and my registry colleagues did not realize that this was closed and
we should have made sure that this remained open. We will work with the process going forward.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ACTION ITEM: WG members to review the draft questions and text on recommendation 13.1 for public comment and provide comments/suggestions if any. See:
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-iMcSboPsoTCHYye_u0uVmaVgNiOP7FKYXkO3FWhY2c/edit">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-iMcSboPsoTCHYye_u0uVmaVgNiOP7FKYXkO3FWhY2c/edit</a>.
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ICANN74:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">See related sessions:
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">GNSO Policy Update: Tuesday, 31 May at 18:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level2 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dedicated Transfer Review Update of Initial Report: Thursday, 2 June at 14:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">3. Return to items flagged for further discussion during last week’s call (see <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1clAqB1wBeOf9ZC5RMMxKrrUTs3N2WyaVYTIyVy_ODs4/edit__;!!PtGJab4!-uPdCgOlvIc2D7WdjwrB25h_m-h2lThi7iJ9xVyDa_dRZeFlweIzaiDE8UpP6EiFmq8T2YaWUEFQ9GGinEd4aYQ6HZ0J7gf-T5yQ$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1clAqB1wBeOf9ZC5RMMxKrrUTs3N2WyaVYTIyVy_ODs4/edit__;!!PtGJab4!-uPdCgOlvIc2D7WdjwrB25h_m-h2lThi7iJ9xVyDa_dRZeFlweIzaiDE8UpP6EiFmq8T2YaWUEFQ9GGinEd4aYQ6HZ0J7gf-T5yQ$">here [docs.google.com]</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">a. Discussion of Recommendation 19 email thread (please see <a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-tpr/2022-May/000449.html" title="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-tpr/2022-May/000449.html">here</a>)
(Mike R.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed revision:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">“Evidence of fraud <b>or [material] violation of the Registration Agreement.</b>
<u>Implementation Guidance</u>: The intent of “violation of the Registration Agreement” is not to allow the blocking of transfers due to minor violations, but to allow action in case of substantive contravention of the Registration Agreement.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Discussion</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Mike provided an email, see above, with the concern that a nefarious registrar could have a clause that could deny and transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Mike had suggested language with a materiality assessment.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sarah had suggested similar language and staff put that out for WG review, particularly by Mike. Since Mike is not on this call staff
will follow up with Mike to ask for his comments and if he has alternate language.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Language is still too broad – could be anything that could be a violation. Think we need to be more specific.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Note that this is a “MAY” deny.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Note also that there is a separate option to deny for non-payment: I.A.3.9.1:
<u>Implementation Guidance</u>: Registrars are prohibited from denying domain name transfer requests based on non-payment of fees for pending or future registration periods during the Auto-Renew Grace Period, provided that any auto-renewal costs borne by the
Registrar are reversible for future period.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">More specificity would help ICANN Compliance, such as “violation of registrar's domain use or anti-abuse policies” would be helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">There is a very narrow use case.
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Leave the alternate language for now.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">b. Recommendation 12 (Mike R.): “Five calendar days, or 120 hours as stated in the report, is too long to wait for a TAC. While most registrars give this to you instantly or within minutes, we wouldn’t want
to wait five days if the matter was urgent and a registrar had that kind of time latitude. We’d strongly prefer a 1-2 calendar day maximum.”’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Preliminary Recommendation 12</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> “The working group confirms that the Transfer Policy MUST continue to require
Registrars to set the TAC at the Registry and provide the TAC to the RNH or their designated representative within five calendar days of a request, although the working group recommends that the policy state the requirement as 120 hours rather than 5 calendar
days to reduce any risk of confusion. The working group further recommends that the policy MUST make clear that 120 hours is the maximum and not the standard period in which the TAC is to be provided.”
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Discussion</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In current policy there are two 5-day windows, so actually 10 days. So the suggestion in Rec 12 cuts that time in half.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Worth talking about whether a smaller time period is acceptable, and what are the pros and cons of leaving it at 5 or making it shorter.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Swimlane can be helpful here – particularly the moment when the RNH requests the TAC that there are a large number of transfer that
have no issues keeping the transfer from happening in a number of minutes. Conversely, there are cases where various issues must be cured before the TAC is provisioned to the RNH. These 120 hours, are they the appropriate time to cure those issues.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Note that this is “up to” the 120 hours. It should be done as quickly as possible if not simultaneously.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WG seems to have coalesced around 5 days – not hearing support for changing to less than 120 hours.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Leave it as is and go to comment with this. IPC can comment in the public forum.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">4. Begin review of items flagged in <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1s9xumJ1XBPdTb7kQmc5sAC2AkszvfAF0freMvnx6G18/edit__;!!PtGJab4!-uPdCgOlvIc2D7WdjwrB25h_m-h2lThi7iJ9xVyDa_dRZeFlweIzaiDE8UpP6EiFmq8T2YaWUEFQ9GGinEd4aYQ6HZ0J7rDcNJzw$" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s9xumJ1XBPdTb7kQmc5sAC2AkszvfAF0freMvnx6G18/edit__;!!PtGJab4!-uPdCgOlvIc2D7WdjwrB25h_m-h2lThi7iJ9xVyDa_dRZeFlweIzaiDE8UpP6EiFmq8T2YaWUEFQ9GGinEd4aYQ6HZ0J7rDcNJzw$">Proposed
Revisions from Working Group members [docs.google.com]</a> document (if any)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nothing else is flagged.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Probably can cancel next week’s call.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Updated version of the Initial Report was sent out after last week’s call incorporated changes agreed to on the call relating to RFCs
and suggestions from Jim.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Staff will send last week’s version of the Initial Report along with the notes from this call. Didn’t hear any agreement to change the
language from what was sent after last week’s call.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Leadership to consider with the WG whether to cancel next week’s meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Plan is to talk about Phase 1(b) on Change of Registrant during ICANN74. WG should start reviewing those charter questions.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ACTION ITEM: Staff to send to the WG list the latest version of the draft Initial Report (that which was sent after the WG meeting on 17 May) – COMPLETE; SEE ATTACHED.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">5. AOB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Next call: Tuesday 31 May 2022 at 16:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ACTION ITEM</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">:
</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Leadership along with the WG will consider whether to cancel the next meeting on<span style="color:black"> Tuesday,
</span>31<span style="color:black"> May 2022 at 16:00 UTC</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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