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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear TPR WG members,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please find below the notes and action items from today’s meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The next meeting will be on
<b>Tuesday, 13 December at 16:00 UTC.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Emily, Julie, Berry, and Caitlin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ACTION ITEMS/HOMEWORK:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ongoing Action Items:
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l12 level1 lfo8"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jothan Frakes, Jim Galvin, Jody Kolker, and Rick Wilhelm have volunteered to compile a list of attack vectors and how the recommendations
 solve for them, or where they are out of scope.</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></b></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l12 level1 lfo8"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Recommendation 13:  Question to the Community</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> --<u>
</u>Small Team on TTL Enforcement: Send the proposal to the list with rationale.</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></b></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l12 level1 lfo8"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Recommendation 22:</span></u></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l10 level2 lfo1"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">a) Concern: Fees and b) Concern: Sanctions</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">: Staff
 to ensure that the rationale reflects the WG’s discussion and agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></b></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l10 level2 lfo1"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">c) Proposed edit</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">: WG agrees to a revision to the
 Implementation Guidance as proposed in the Potential next step.<o:p></o:p></span></b></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Action Items from 08 December: None captured.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Transfer Policy Review - Meeting #72<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Proposed Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">08 December 2022<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">1. Roll Call & SOI updates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2. Welcome and Chair Updates<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">No updates.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">3. Review of <a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-tpr/2022-December/000696.html" title="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-tpr/2022-December/000696.html">Small
 Team Proposal regarding Transfer Policy section I.A.3.7.1</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Small Team met after the end of the last call and developed the following draft language:  "Evidence of (a) fraud or (b) the domain presents
 an active DNS Security Threat as defined here: <a href="https://www.icann.org/dns-security-threat.">
https://www.icann.org/dns-security-threat.</a>"<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Language at the link could change so it should have to be watched.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Is it clear that “evidence” applies to both “fraud” and “active DNS Security Threat”?  WG members think it is clear.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Question: This is a MAY NACK not a MUST NACK – why is that?  (Question from the BC.)  Answer: Reason it is MAY is because there is a question
 about what evidence of fraud arises to.  Registrar has the discretion to decide what is evidence.  The other issue is jurisdiction.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Disagree: Fraud is fraud, jurisdiction shouldn’t matter and shouldn’t leave up to the registrar.  Also, should be clear for DNS security
 threats.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jurisdiction does matter and depends.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Question: If a complaint comes in with an allegation of fraud, and the complainant makes reference to evidence – who determines that evidence
 is sufficient?  What if complainant and registrar disagree?  Could a registrar be put into a breach situation?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Maybe split it – make fraud a MAY and make DNS Security Threat at MUST.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What if the registrar has to prove that the domain is okay against a complaint of DNS Security Threat, so leave as a MAY.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Perhaps no reason to make DNS Security Threats discretionary since it is clear – so could make a MUST.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Registrars can choose how they want to monitor and mitigate abuse – could have conflicting determinations of DNS Security Threat from
 different reputation block lists.  Registrars should have the discretion should be able to make their own determinations.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Where the clear evidence that there is a DNS Security Threat it should be suspended – no discretion needed.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“Clear and convincing evidence” is a higher threshold than “evidence of”.  If a registrar has “clear and convincing evidence” could make
 it a MUST.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Keep “evidence of fraud” as a MAY because it depends on jurisdiction (porn or LGBTQ as an example).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Seems that “evidence of fraud” could stay as a MAY.  In current policy, that is the only NACK reason – can’t currently NACK for abuse
 (or at registrars’ discretion).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Adding in “DNS Security Threat” as a MAY is a huge step.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Since registrars can block names that pose a “DNS Security Threat”, so not sure we need to make this a MUST.  If there is insufficient
 evidence and didn’t block a name, wouldn’t they in breach of the transfer policy?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">DNS abuse definition is out of scope for this group.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This discussion shows the need to include “DNS Security Threat” in the policy.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">How about “A registrar MUST refuse the transfer if the registrar is satisfied that it poses a “DNS Security Threat.”  So: 1) MAY for evidence
 of fraud and 2) MUST…”. Still at the registrar’s discretion – the registrar must be satisfied.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Doesn’t prevent registrar abuse.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Seems that most WG members agree that the “DNS Security Threat” should be a MAY.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Suggest that Mike could post to the list language and rationale for why the “DNS Security Threat” should be a MUST.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Leave this new language in for now.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">4. Phase 1A Initial Report Public comment review – review of items not specifically tied to a recommendation:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">a. Other - Charter Questions and Report Text – see:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/201949311/gnso-TPR-P1A-pcrt-Initial-Report_Responses%20to%20CQs%20and%20Report%20Content_20220829.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1661773851000&api=v2">
gnso-TPR-P1A-pcrt-Initial-Report_Responses to CQs and Report Content_20220829.docx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Don’t see the need to limit transfers or to allow bulk transfers; don’t think we should be suggesting technological solutions for verification.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Talk about bulk transfers later; camera for verification could cause GDPR issues.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Limiting transfers could impact the value of a domain name.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Don’t agree that we should change the policy with respect to renewals.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">30-day lock solves the problem of frequent transfers.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WG agrees that there is no need for any changes with respect to the comments.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Re: Fees – hopefully language is clear that registrants don’t have to pay those fees to transfer.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Staff has an action to consult internally on sanctions.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Policy is also applicable to the resellers (RAAs) – registrar is responsible for the reseller.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">3.12.2 Any registration agreement used by reseller shall include all registration agreement provisions and notices required by the ICANN
 Registrar Accreditation Agreement and any ICANN Consensus Policies.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Also this: 3.12 Obligations Related to Provision of Registrar Services by Third Parties. Registrar is responsible for the provision of
 Registrar Services for all Registered Names that Registrar sponsors being performed in compliance with this Agreement, regardless of whether the Registrar Services are provided by Registrar or a third party, including a Reseller. Registrar must enter into
 written agreements with all of its Resellers that enable Registrar to comply with and perform all of its obligations under this Agreement. In addition, Registrar must ensure that:<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Out of scope for this WG to regulate fees.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ICANN doesn’t set fees consistently anywhere else.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Need to have some leeway to increase the fees down the road.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WG did not agree to make any changes on how prominently disclosed in a DNRA, such as with renewal fees.  There was nothing in our Initial
 Report – didn’t raise when we talked about it previously.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Still think the WG should consider an new recommendation (proposal from Mike Rodenbaugh) to require registrars to feature fees prominently.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Comment 7—Table to next week to allow ICANN Org Compliance to add context.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Comments 8-9:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Covered the issue in #8 in previous discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Already looking at ways to accommodate #9.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WG agrees that no changes to the recommendations are necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Current proposal is to put Losing FOA back in the NACK model, so status quo.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WG agreed that DNSSEC was out of scope (re: SSAC’s comment) and we included that in our rationale
<b><i>(STAFF TO REVIEW RATIONALE).</i></b><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tech Ops is looking at the suggestions in #11 and WG is preparing a write-up on threat vectors re: #12.   Don’t think anything Tech Ops
 comes up with would affect this WG.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WG agrees that no changes are necessary in response to the comments</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">b. Other - Charter Questions and Report Text– see:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/TPRPDP/Phase+1A+-+Public+Comment+Review?preview=/201949311/212107993/gnso-TPR-P1A-pcrt-Initial-Report_Responses%20to%20CQs%20and%20Report%20Content_20220829.docx">
https://community.icann.org/display/TPRPDP/Phase+1A+-+Public+Comment+Review?preview=/201949311/212107993/gnso-TPR-P1A-pcrt-Initial-Report_Responses%20to%20CQs%20and%20Report%20Content_20220829.docx</a>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Staff note: Due to the length of this comment, please refer to the full text of the PDF
</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://itp.cdn.icann.org/public-comment/proceeding/Initial%20Report%20on%20the%20Transfer%20Policy%20Review%20-%20Phase%201(a)-21-06-2022/submissions/Leap%20of%20Faith%20Financial%20Services%20Inc./LEAP-comments-Transfers-Phase1a-20220814-FINAL-15-08-2022.pdf"><i>here</i></a><i>.
 Comments quoted below are included in pages 56-57.</i><b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
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<b>page 38, section 3.4.2, the term "Lock" with relation to Domain Name Locking for a UDRP should be made more precise</b>. For greater certainty (since there is a presumption of innocence until proven guilty<b>), registrant should be able to change nameservers
 during a UDRP</b> (i.e. registrar can set clientTransferProhibited, but should NOT set clientUpdateProhibited). UDRP complainants had ample opportunity to collect evidence/screenshots before a UDRP was filed, and preventing nameservers to change might have
 a negative impact on a registrant. e.g. suppose a domain was hacked, and the nameservers were changed to those controlled by the "hacker". A UDRP filing shouldn't prevent a registrant from fixing those nameservers (to change them to what they were before they
 were hacked), all while keeping the domain at the current registrar. (registrars need to have better granularity for their locks, which they might not all do all the time, particularly when there's a UDRP). . .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">. . . The
<b>Swim Lane seems to also incorrectly state "TAC Securely Stored" (by the registry). It's the HASH of the TAC that is securely stored (not the TAC itself that is securely stored).</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Unless there are objections, staff with update the swimlane to state that the hash of the TAC is securely stored.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Re: the comment on “lock” in the UDRP, the UDRP states, “Lock means a set of measures that are registered applies to a domain name which
 prevents at a minimum any modification to the registrant and register information by the respondent,
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">but does not affect the resolution of the domain, name or the renewal of the domain name.”<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Believe we did discuss this. However, I think the conclusion the group came to earlier is that definitions with inside another policy
 or within another policy aren't really within the scope of this group's work.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It's not within our scope to change other policies like the UDRP rules. I think it's a plain meaning. The registrant can certainly change
 the name servers if they want to go to a different host or something like that. So yeah, I don't think that's that section or that the lock of concern is something that we really need to address.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l13 level1 lfo12"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Re: the hash of the TAC:  I think that's a difference without a distinction, and I also think that it also over specifies, because in
 the future the mechanism for that secure storing, maybe something different than hashing it as technology evolves. And so I think that securely stored by whatever means necessary, as saying goes, is a better way to state it and not over specified in the policy.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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