<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Why can't the TPR WG require something more forthcoming for the registrants?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Steve</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 3:42 PM Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Steve, good point. I guess those registrars and their resellers will have to sort out that inevitable confusion.<div><br></div><div>Thanks Emily for the quick and helpful response, much appreciated.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="203"><col width="86"><col width="335"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:20.25pt"><td rowspan="4" style="border-right:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:center;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:159px;height:95px"><img alt="Logo" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/S_Oxvn9Vep0rF8IVyiOnDwA4LymtHrWirggIxlsU26JihhEYDv5A5D03ZY0k_npND2t8xfiWCdTM5NTO_LSZMksjO_UlJm5IAP3FEi5cw96AwIPgVzvoOfHIux_qNA26n5UuxvQZ" width="159" height="95" style="margin-left: 0px; 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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks for the questions.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">IANA IDs are not defined in the Transfer Policy; this is a unique ID assigned to registrar when it becomes accredited with ICANN org. The list of IANA IDs is managed on this page:
<a href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids.xhtml" target="_blank">https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids.xhtml</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The working group has acknowledged that the IANA ID alone may not be meaningful to registrants. The current recommendations state that when the Losing Registrar includes the IANA ID
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 15 February 2023 at 20:52<br>
<b>To: </b>Emily Barabas <<a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org" target="_blank">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-tpr@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-tpr@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-tpr@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-tpr@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re: [GNSO-TPR] For Review: Latest Redline of Phase 1A Initial Report & Recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">As discussed on our recent calls, staff had an action item to provide an updated redline revision of the Phase 1A Initial Report to the working group for review. The updated redline is attached and includes:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt">Updates for consistency in terminology, the way that timeframes are referenced, etc.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li style="color:black;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm">
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">The inputs will be reviewed when the working group returns to considering Phase 1(a) items. Additional information about the timeline for returning to Phase 1(a) will be provided as we progress through
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