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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear TPR WG members,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please find below the brief notes and action items from today’s meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The next meeting will be
<b>Tuesday, 30 January 2024</b> at 1600 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Christian, Caitlin, Berry and Julie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ACTION ITEMS/HOMEWORK: None captured.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Transfer Policy Review - Meeting #115</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Proposed Agenda</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">23 January 2024<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Notes:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Welcome and Chair updates<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Want to get COR discussions wrapped up by ICANN79.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. COR Sunset/Definition discussion – starting at slide 3 (see attached):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">2.3 doesn’t really apply (subject to a UDRP).  That’s an overlap in policy.  Would still be covered in UDRP policy.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">On slide 5: there may be circumstances to proactively opt out of this.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">This is if it’s recommended to get rid of COR.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Poll (slide 6):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Option 1: No change to COR definition  (COR = name, organization, email address) --13%<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Option 2: Expand COR definition  (COR = name, organization, email address, and phone number) -- 20%<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Option 3: Reduce COR definition (or retitle to Change of Control) to email address only -- 7%<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Option 4: Add Change of Control definition (email address or other anchor contact method) that is treated differently/separately from a COR -- 27%<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Option 5: Eliminate the Change of Registrant policy  (no notifications are required when updating any registrant data) -- 33%<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">If we get rid of the policy, GDPR may still have requirements that apply.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Note that this is COR policy, separate from the TAC.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">If we look at the second bullet, how to take action, there is no requirement associate with this – expect a lot of objections in public comment, especially Option 5 (COR elimination);
 need to have a rationale for what we are recommending.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Option 5: Don’t think the COR works as it currently, but some kind of notification could be useful, but maybe somewhere else.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Are you suggesting notification is a MUST for any data? Yes but not in Transfer Policy.  Maybe recommend to Council.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Either Option 5 or 4 get the most support.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Maybe add an Option 6 – eliminate COR but keep in a notification requirement.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Agree that sending a notice is a good thing to prior and updated address but don’t need a lock. Do we need a Notification Policy?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">It’s not about transfers so maybe it goes somewhere else.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">We’ve also enhanced the TAC request process.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">We aren’t providing the most secure solution; you have to find that somewhere else.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Maybe the notification is a decision by the registrar – to provide that security option to customers.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Leaving notification in place could address registrant concerns.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Eliminating could result in a backlash from the community – notification is something at least for the optics.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">From a staff perspective the sunset of most of COR Policy will be a shock to the community.  WG needs to coalesce around a recommendation and rationale, or present options for public
 comment.  Also need to highlight other requirements, such as under GDPR.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Need to highlight in the rationale that the current policy doesn’t work and why. 
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Need to pre-emptively prepare for public comment with a rationale.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3. Privacy/Proxy charter questions – start with slide 9<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">This will go away with a notification policy.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Proxy is the registrant.  Under GDPR these questions go away.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">d10) Should the policy be the same regardless of whether the registrant uses a privacy service or a proxy service? If not, how should these be treated differently?<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">If the COR is removed this (question d10) is not needed?  Maybe notifications for the removal of a privacy/proxy service?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Prior to GDPR you had to turn off a privacy/proxy service before transfer.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Is it possible that privacy/proxy services are truly third parties?  Hard to put all in one category -- it depends.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Should turning on or off of a privacy/proxy service trigger a notification? Some do not consider it a change of registrant.
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">d11) Are notifications provided to privacy/proxy customers regarding COR and changes to the privacy/proxy service information sufficient? For example, should there be additional notifications or warnings given to a privacy/proxy customer
 if the privacy/proxy service regularly changes the privacy/proxy anonymized email address?<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">No.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Not suggesting notification for any change.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">4. Designated Agent charter questions<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">d12) In its survey response, the Registrar Stakeholder Group indicated that, “There is. . . overuse of the Designated Agent, which has basically circumvented the policy.” To what extent is this the case? What is the impact?<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Would like an explanation for how Designated Agent is used.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">There is overuse of the Designated Agent by design.  There is an operational reason it is in there.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">d13) If the Designated Agent function is not operating as intended, should it be retained and modified? Eliminated?<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Can only eliminate it if you eliminate the COR.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">It is capitalized because it’s a defined term in the policy.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">d14) Are there alternative means to meet the objectives of Designated Agent role?<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Only if COR isn’t eliminated.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Need to look at how the DA originated.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">Perhaps waiving some rights to the registrar or others would replace it.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">d15) Based on complaints received by ICANN’s Contractual Compliance Department, there appear to be different interpretations of the role and authority of the Designated Agent. If the Designated Agent function remains, should this flexibility
 be retained? Does the flexibility create the potential for abuse?<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">When we came up with the DA we decided not to determine who that should be.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">d16) If the role of the Designated Agent is to be clarified further, should it be narrowed with more specific instructions on when it is appropriate and how it is to be used?<o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9"><span style="background:white;mso-highlight:white">Should the Designated Agent be given blanket authority to approve any and all CORs? Or should the authority be limited to specific COR requests? Does the
 authority to approve a COR also include the authority to request/initiate a COR without the Registered Name Holder requesting the COR?</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">If you are going to do this you may as well take the DA out of the policy.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5. AOB <o:p></o:p></p>
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