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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear TPR WG members,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Please find below the brief notes and action items from today’s meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The next meeting will be
<b>Tuesday, 20 February 2024</b> at 1600 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Christian, Caitlin, Berry and Julie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>ACTION ITEMS/HOMEWORK: WG to complete the COR Reduction Rationale document at:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1DpDO2BYTl6TA7ApfPpG3Hpl13nrv4y4x9B3hImrx_Fc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!5AMC2yyFuiAuDP4NVzqpIuVbN_QeariExytXRoJUCPWEFXwih6H_FltoJa3yAsqzuSgtz-VVaOL5fxb7jnSTUnXPeXp6qWg3vw$">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DpDO2BYTl6TA7ApfPpG3Hpl13nrv4y4x9B3hImrx_Fc/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</a><o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Transfer Policy Review - Meeting #118</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Proposed Agenda</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>13 February 2024</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Welcome and Chair Updates<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Three sessions with this one before ICANN79.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Two sessions scheduled for ICANN79 – COR and impacts. See TPR agendas at: agenda:(https://community.icann.org/display/TPRPDP/2024-03-02+ICANN79+Transfer+Policy+Review+PDP+WG+Call+Session+1).
It is currently a rolling agenda for both sessions, part 1 being discussion of the draft COR recommendations, and part 2 being discussion of the Group 1(a) 30-day transfer restriction (and whether the existing recs need to be updated in light of the CORD recs).<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">ALAC will be meeting at ICANN79 to discuss COR on Saturday, 02 March; open to the public. Follows the TPR sessions.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Still no rationale in the document at: COR Reduction Rationale document at:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1DpDO2BYTl6TA7ApfPpG3Hpl13nrv4y4x9B3hImrx_Fc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!5AMC2yyFuiAuDP4NVzqpIuVbN_QeariExytXRoJUCPWEFXwih6H_FltoJa3yAsqzuSgtz-VVaOL5fxb7jnSTUnXPeXp6qWg3vw$">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DpDO2BYTl6TA7ApfPpG3Hpl13nrv4y4x9B3hImrx_Fc/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">WG Self-Assessment Survey is still open – 9 responses so far. Closes 21 February.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. CORD Availability discussion – See attached slides, starting at slide 3.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Numbers 2 and 3 can go away completely. No longer relevant.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">2.3 is probably duplicate policy language.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Don’t know what harm there is in allowing someone to update their data – would be less harmful to allow (2.1).<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">If there is a domain name for which you could update the registrant data would think there would be a contract between the registrar and registrant.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Unless there is disagreement it seems we could simplify the policy by eliminating 2 and 3.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Does 2.2 still make sense if authorization is not required? We now have a notification-only policy so you don’t need it.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. Preliminary Recommendations – See attached slides.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Recs 1.1 and 1.2, slide 5:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">This is impossible to code for – hard to define a typo or not.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Original language assumed some manual processes.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Think about how this would work in the real world. No notion of typo.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Nothing to prevent a registrar from treating any change as material.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 1.3, slide 6:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Make sure we are talking about the underlying customer data.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Question: Why do we care about this and how does it tie into change of registrant data? Answer: To clarify in response to charter questions.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">If a registrant applies a privacy proxy service, that’s not a material change.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">But there is underlying customer data and if that changes there is a notification. Changing the name would trigger notification because it’s out there.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">We're getting into a discussion that no longer has anything to do with a change of registrant data in combination with the privacy proxy service.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">We had a couple of charter questions on privacy proxy that needed to be addressed.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Do we eliminate it?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">It may have been important when we wrote the charter but we can say it’s no longer applicable.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 2, slide 7:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">It’s redundant language.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 3, slide 8:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Question: Should we change “registrant data” to “registration data”?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Why would we change anything? This section is no longer relevant. There is no confirmation process anymore. There's only notification. Just remove it.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 4.1, slide 9:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">No comments.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 4.2, slide 10:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Question: Send to the previous or only the new RNH? Answer: We discussed getting rid of the prior and sticking with just RNH. I don’t think we decided that you couldn’t send to both
of them if you chose to.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Since this is framed as a change of data the only time it would make sense to notify both is if email changes, which is addressed in 4.4.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 4.3, slide 11:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">No comments.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 4.4, slide 12:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Question: What are we trying to achieve? Answer: When you are changing the email address the registrar is required by contract to verify that email address -- the new one. So there
is work that goes into that. So it's not like it's just changed. Getting a positive notification that email is updated.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Don’t see any good reasons from a policy perspective.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">From a registrant perspective see the benefit but if already done by WHOIS verification then that is the complete solution.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Could think about turning the MUST into a MAY?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Notifications might typically go to the account control panel.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 4.5, slide 13:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">No comments.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 4.6, slide 14:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">No comments.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 4.7, slide 15:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Wonder if we need to be that specific.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 5.1, slide 16:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Concerns with this: when it comes to a new RNH that is out of the registrar’s control if there is a new agreement.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Question: Maybe we could incorporate more about the decision to be informed and when can an opt out be reversed. Answer: See slide 17.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Question: When a domain name changes hands is there anything that needs to be done about the opt out continuing? Answer: Talked about whether to opt out every time you make a change.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">It can be a permanent flag not an every time flag.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Change MUST to MAY? We kept MUST for consistency across registrars.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discussion Prelim Rec 5.2, slide 17:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Question: If a registrant makes a CORD and prior to that opts out there still would be a verification email – any concern about fraud in opting out?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4">Continue discussion at the next meeting.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">4. AOB: None.<o:p></o:p></p>
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