[gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...

[Michele Neylon - Blacknight]

Chicken and egg, as Rubens explained .. 

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From: Alexander Mayrhofer [alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at]
Sent: 20 November 2013 15:34
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Rubens Kuhl
Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
Subject: AW: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...

The Registry Agreement is quite clear on this, though:


"Registration Data Directory Services. Until ICANN requires a different protocol, Registry Operator will operate a WHOIS service available via port 43 in accordance with RFC 3912, and a web based Directory Service at <whois.nic.TLD> providing free public query based access to at least the following elements in the following format."

Strictly speaking, it hence looks like running the WHOIS service under a different hostname would constitute a violation of the Registry agreement?

Alex


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Michele Neylon - Blacknight [mailto:michele at blacknight.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 16:28
> An: Alexander Mayrhofer; Rubens Kuhl
> Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
> Betreff: RE: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
>
> They aren't obliged to use nic.tld afaik - the whois server is specified in their
> respective IANA entry
>
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> ________________________________________
> From: gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org [gtld-tech-bounces at icann.org] on
> behalf of Alexander Mayrhofer [alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at]
> Sent: 20 November 2013 15:25
> To: Rubens Kuhl
> Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
>
> I'm using whois.nic.<TLD> - and, yes, nic.<TLD> is properly delegated and
> reachable in that case, but "whois.nic.<tld>" returns an NXDOMAIN. My
> understanding is that ICANN requires the WHOIS service to be offered under
> that hostname...  See the respective specification in the AGB..
>
> Indeed, the IANA record shows a different server - so, do i understand
> correctly that you can actually submit to IANA a different WHOIS server than
> the one required by ICANN? Can anyone who's already delegated confirm
> this?
>
> Alex
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rubensk at nic.br]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. November 2013 15:02
> > An: Alexander Mayrhofer
> > Cc: gtld-tech at icann.org
> > Betreff: Re: [gtld-tech] Delegated strings: WHOIS & SLAs...
> >
> >
> > Are you using whois.nic.<TLD> or the WHOIS server mentioned at
> > http://www.iana.org/whois?q=<TLD> ?
> >
> >
> > Rubens
> >
> > On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Alexander Mayrhofer
> > <alexander.mayrhofer at nic.at> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Looking at some of the recently delegated new gTLDs, i was very
> > > surprised
> > to learn that the WHOIS service is unreachable for some of those TLDs
> > (which makes me wonder how they passed PDT, or why the service
> > degraded since then?). Anyways, since WHOIS is included in the SLA
> > requirements of ICANN, this makes me also wonder when the SLA actually
> > "kicks in", and, whether the SLAs are actually being measured right now by
> ICANN ...
> > >
> > > Any information about this?
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >