[ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto - decision on the dates

Tue Aug 28 09:54:09 UTC 2012

> ccNSO penetration rate - how many ccTLDs come to ICANN meetings etc
> other stakeholders penetration rate;

Well in this pilot project, ccNSO has got only 1 seat, probably
because ccNSO has no "SG" as GNSO does, although cctlds (still)
outnumber gtlds.

>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder
> <stephane.vangelder at indom.com> wrote:
>>
>> I strongly agree with Avri, Chuck and Bill that postponing until we are
>> ready should be considered very seriously.
>>
>> The risk of launching by Toronto with a half-baked product outweighs the
>> downside of not starting in Toronto IMO.
>>
>> Stéphane Van Gelder
>> Directeur Général / General manager
>> INDOM Group NBT France
>> ----------------
>> Registry Relations and Strategy Director
>> Group NBT
>>
>> Le 28 août 2012 à 09:18, William Drake a écrit :
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> While I strongly support capacity building and outreach/inreach and would
>> not want to cause frustration among those who've worked hard on this, I
>> think I agree with Avri and Chuck that postponement merits serious
>> consideration.  There still seems to be different baseline visions in play
>> with regard to goals, substance, mechanics and governance, and it's not
>> obvious that these can all be effectively resolved quickly enough to ensure
>> a good outcome in Toronto.  And if a "not ready for prime time" version is
>> rushed out and doesn't go splendidly, this could have a negative impact on
>> community perceptions of the utility of such efforts going forward.  I'd
>> rather see it unambiguously done right and build the support needed for a
>> regular activity than have it be the object of gossip and dissensus (not
>> that that could happen in ICANN, but…).
>>
>> A little more percolation and community direction seems advisable to me.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:53 AM, sandra hoferichter wrote:
>>
>> Hi Avri, postpone the programme would be that last option only, which I
>> put not as an option yet. Taking into consideration the NomCom selections
>> and the new CEO participation, I still see some very good reasons to go for
>> Toronto. The Autumn meeting was not proposed just by chance. Furthermore I
>> believe we can get things done, now that we are in the dialogue.
>>
>>
>> Best Sandra
>>
>>
>> (Note: This message was send from my iPhone - I do apologise for any
>> misspelling.)
>>
>>
>> Am 28.08.2012 um 01:01 schrieb "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>:
>>
>>
>> Considering how late it is before the Toronto meetings, this is worth
>> considering.  At the same time, I personally will contribute however
>> possible to do what needs to be done if we keep the Toronto target.
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-
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>> lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
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>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 6:20 PM
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>> To: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
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>> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] Pilot leadership training in Toronto -
>>
>> decision on the dates
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> other ideas.
>>
>>
>> Would it be possible/reasonable to add the option of postponing the
>>
>> leadership training from Toronto to a later time when a properly
>>
>> constituted plan can be considered?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 Aug 2012, at 17:00, sandra hoferichter wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> thank you again for the valuable comments which has been posted on
>>
>> this list. I did not respond to everyone, but they should all feed into
>>
>> the further discussion and the final curriculum.
>>
>>
>> Coming back to one of Filiz' earlier email I like to draw your
>>
>> attention to the following question and ask you kindly to express your
>>
>> opinion in a doodle.
>>
>>
>> Due to the time conflicts for some assigned participants, we like to
>>
>> get a clearer picture about the duration of the leadership training in
>>
>> Toronto.
>>
>>
>> I propose 3 options and ask all WG members*** to choose, what do you
>>
>> think is the most appropriate solution. Feel free to consider also
>>
>> the
>>
>> feedback of your SO / AC / SG chair whilst making the choice
>>
>> here:http://www.doodle.com/4c4fa7dehuaksckx
>>
>>
>> *** For group balancing reasons I ask the recent ALAC programme
>>
>> committee members (Avri, Tijani, Sala, Carlos) only to reply on the
>>
>> doodle.
>>
>>
>> The options are:
>>
>>
>> 1.       A one day orientation programme on Fri, 12th October à this
>>
>> will avoid time conflicts, especially for the GNSO, board and current
>>
>> chairs.
>>
>> 2.       A two day programme on Fri, 12th -  Sat 13th Octà taking
>>
>> into account that not everybody can participate on the 2ndday
>>
>> 3.       An adapted 2 day programme on Fri, 12th -  Sat 13th Oct à to
>>
>> cover the needs for two (slightly different) target groups, on the
>>
>> first and on the second day. The two target groups are IMHO: current
>>
>> chairs and experienced leaders on the one hand, prospective and
>>
>> incoming chairs and leaders on the other hand.
>>
>>
>> Please note: this is not a vote following the ICANN bylaws, the
>>
>> purpose is to get a feedback on a certain issue. The doodle will be
>>
>> open until Thursday 30th August 2012.
>>
>>
>> Once we have a clear idea on this, we should set up a drafting team
>>
>> to create a curriculum for the programme. I ask you already herewith to
>>
>> volunteer for this drafting team and hope we can pick up most of the
>>
>> comments made by the WG members.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for the cooperation and please let me know if you have
>>
>> questions or other ideas.
>>
>>
>> Best Sandra
>>
>>
>>
>>
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