[ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training Programme in Buenos Aires

Thu Sep 5 08:15:03 UTC 2013

> Why are we training the folks that are Constituency chairs? That leaves no room for newcomers, and frankly, if a chair doesn't know their (and ICANN stuff) we are electing the wrong people at constituency level.

1. because it was one outcome of the survey
2. it is a programme called "LEADERSHIP training programme not newcomers programme
3. Can we really assume that all current leaders have a deep knowledge about the functioning and perspective of all other stakeholder groups? I doubt.
4. even if this is the case, the overall group will benefit if current leaders can contribute with their experience and we are not only having a theoretical discussion
5. also current chairs might benefit form the interaction with the new elected leaders and others as well
6. the facilitation skill training is designed to elaborate soft skills

My general comment is: this programme is an offer to the community. Finally it is up to each constituency to decide whom to send and up to the individual to participate, regardless if they are either incoming, returning or current leader. 

Best Sandra

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Von: Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro [mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. September 2013 09:32
An: Marilyn Cade
Cc: Alain Berranger; Sandra Hoferichter; mllemineur at gmail.com; at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:17 AM, "Marilyn Cade " <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Why are we training the folks that are Constituency chairs? That leaves no room for newcomers, and frankly, if a chair doesn't know their (and ICANN stuff) we are electing the wrong people at constituency level. 

I am in absolute agreement. 
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> From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:44:45 
> To: <info at hoferichter.eu>; <mllemineur at gmail.com>
> Cc: <at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training Programme
> in Buenos Aires
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> Dear Sandra,
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> 
> I think GNSO Cys Chairs should be included.
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> 
> Alain
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> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 7:51 AM, sandra hoferichter <info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu> > wrote:
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> Dear Olga, 
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> I hear you  -  the distribution of seats for the training is a proposal only and subject to discussion. I expect changes here.  What would you propose how many seats shall be assigned to the GAC. 
>   
> As with regards to the trainers - this number is not even a proposal. I just put in a number to demonstrate how it effects the overall number of participants. I could have put the number for trainers in any other row. But maybe the way of doing so was confusing. 
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> Best Sandra 
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> Von: Olga Cavalli [mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com> ] 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. September 2013 13:36
> An: sandra hoferichter
> Cc: Avri Doria; ICANN Academy WG
> Betreff: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training Programme in Buenos Aires 
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> Dear Sandra, 
> 
> many thanks for your comment and I know that trainers and other details are not decided yet. 
> 
> My comment was precisely focusing ot the fact that more seats should be consider for the GAC as it is a very large AC, and also several new countries are joining in every meeting. 
> 
> This will be for sure the case in an ICANN meeting organized in Latin America as the Buenos Aires one. 
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> And also for the same reason the comment goes to the trainers assigned to GAC or from GAC. 
> 
> Best and many thanks for all your work. 
> 
> Olga 
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> 2013/9/4 sandra hoferichter <info at hoferichter.eu <mailto:info at hoferichter.eu> > 
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> Dear Olga, as stated in the head of the table these numbers a hypothetical and just serve to show how many seats are available if some participants are in a double role.  
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> Nor the number of trainers has been decided jet, or from which stakeholder group they are coming from. Only the maximum number of participants (25 incl. trainer) is fixed. Everything else is open for discussion. 
> 
> Best Sandra 
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> (Note: This message was send from my iPhone - I do apologise for any misspelling.) 
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> Am 04.09.2013 um 03:23 schrieb Olga Cavalli <olgacavalli at gmail.com <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com> >: 
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> Hi Avri, 
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> what I meant is that there is 0 trainers for GAC in the form. 
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> And I think GAC deserves trainers, and I volunteered for that. 
> 
> Best 
> 
> Olga 
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> 2013/9/3 Avri Doria <avri at ella.com <mailto:avri at ella.com> > 
> Hi Olga,
> 
> I did not know that any trainers had been picked yet, so how could you have been picked.
> 
> avri 
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> On 3 Sep 2013, at 20:21, Olga Cavalli wrote:
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>> Hi Sandra,
>> Form shows no trainers for the GAC, why?
>> I volunteered to help and GAC has no names, so please include me there.
>> Also are there only 2 GAC participants expected?
>> GAC meetings are very large, much more than any other SO or AC, so I suggest to increase that number.
>> How are the participants going to be selected?
>> Best
>> Olga
>> 
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