[ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training Programme in Buenos Aires

[Olga Cavalli]

Agree with Tina´s comments. I am also confused.
Could someone clarify?
Best
Olga


2013/9/6 Tina Dam <tinadam at gmail.com>

> Ok that's a bit confusing to me. Why are we writing criteria for
> trainer-selection if they are already selected? Who are the trainers?
> On Sep 6, 2013 3:13 PM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> wrote:
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>>  Hi Avri,****
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>> I agree with you that the trainers we wrote the principles for their
>> selection are those of the leadership training only since the facilitation
>> training has its trainers.****
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>> As for the budget, it doesn’t include any compensation for the trainers
>> as I was told (that’s why I removed the compensation from the document
>> related to the principles for selection of the trainers).****
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>> Since we have been told that the trainers have agreed on the period, that
>> means that they are already appointed……..****
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>> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
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>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org[mailto:
>> at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la
>> part de Avri Doria
>> Envoyé : vendredi 6 septembre 2013 13:42
>> À : ICANN Academy WG
>> Objet : Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training
>> Programme in Buenos Aires
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>> Hi,****
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>> I thought the trainers for the 13-14 were attached to the company that
>> ICANN had brought in to do this training and had nothing to do with any of
>> us or other usual suspects.****
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>> It does appear thought, that with trainers for the second part, the one
>> that sort of involves us, and the whole idea that they prefer trainers who
>> are also students so they can do it cheaper, may be pennywise but misses
>> the point  of a training event completely.  For example, for 2 days of
>> classes, it looks like ICANN is only willing to sponsor 3 trainers from
>> among the experienced community.****
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>> Does anyone know how the budget breaks down for the who 4 days: e.g. how
>> much for special trainers in group management, versus how much for expert
>> trainers in the relevant ICANN information?****
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>> avri****
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>> On 6 Sep 2013, at 08:16, Hong Xue wrote:****
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>> > Dear Sandra and all,****
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>> > We should note such important information:****
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>> > "Unfortunately the trainers of the Incite Learning Facilitation Skills
>> have****
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>> > confirmed for the dates of 13-14 November. Therefore, the dates for each
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>> > will need to remain as originally scheduled."****
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>> > If the trainers for 13-14 November have been "confirmed", may we know
>> whom they are, although we are not suppose to choose them (I misunderstood
>> this initially)? Disclosure of these trainers may help us to define and
>> select the trainers for 15-16 November. If one or more trainers are
>> selected for both training programs, would that be more cost-effective for
>> traveling and othe arrangements.****
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>> > Hong ****
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>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----****
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>> > Von: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org**
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>> > [mailto:
>> at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im****
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>> > Auftrag von Avri Doria****
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>> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. September 2013 16:31****
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>> > An: ICANN Academy WG****
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>> > Betreff: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training
>> Programme****
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>> > in Buenos Aires****
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>> > Hi,****
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>> > I  do not know what other constraints there might be on scheduling, but
>> this****
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>> > is an interesting idea.****
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>> > ****
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>> > One of the things I felt lacking was time for people to follow up on
>> both****
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>> > the OL training  and the face to face sessions with questions and free*
>> ***
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>> > ranging  conversation.****
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>> > Having the substantive sessions before the methods sessions would leave
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>> > people a chance to discuss in their free time as well as perhaps even
>> use****
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>> > some of the topics from the substantive training in the models training
>> -****
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>> > which I understand will have role playing and other assorted exercises.
>> ****
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>> > Then again as I said, the scheduling may be locked by other
>> considerations****
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>> > at this point.****
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>> > ****
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>> > avri****
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>> > On 4 Sep 2013, at 09:46, Tijani BENJEMAA wrote:****
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>> > > Hi Olivier,****
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>> > > I proposed to organize the leadership skill on 13-14 Nov. and the
>> facility****
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>> > skills on 15-16 Nov. Why not?****
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>> > > Tijani BEN JEMAA****
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>> > > Executive Director****
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>> > > Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI)****
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>> > > Phone:  + 216 41 649 605****
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>> > > Mobile: + 216 98 330 114****
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>> > > Fax:       + 216 70 853 376****
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>> > > De : Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond [mailto:ocl at gih.com]****
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>> > > Envoyé : mercredi 4 septembre 2013 11:34****
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>> > > À : tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn****
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>> > > Cc : 'sandra hoferichter'; 'ICANN Academy WG'****
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>> > > Objet : Re: [ICANN Academy WG] PILOT - ICANN Leadership Training
>> Programme****
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>> > in Buenos Aires****
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>> > >****
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>> > > Dear Tijani,****
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>> > >****
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>> > > On 04/09/2013 12:26, Tijani BENJEMAA wrote:****
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>> > > And in case it’s open, I would suggest to organize it on 15-16 Nov.
>> rather****
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>> > than 13-14 so that interested people will come 2 days prior to the ICANN
>> ****
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>> > meeting and not 4 days. I don’t think there is any harm in doing so.***
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>> > > How could incoming SO/AC leaders be both at the leadership skills
>> *and*****
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>> > the facility skills if they take place on the same days?****
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>> > > The facility skills is before the leadership skills by design so they
>> can****
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>> > attend both.****
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>> > > Kind regards,****
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>> > Professor Dr. Hong Xue****
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