[Internal-cg] Charter commenting

Daniel Karrenberg daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net
Wed Aug 6 06:11:33 UTC 2014


This text is good. Again: I hope that the comment *mechanism* can be set
up as a generic one and kept open until our work is done.

Daniel

On 5.08.14 23:30 , Alissa Cooper wrote:
> Ok, I made a couple of edits to the proposed landing page text to
> accommodate suggestions received. I slightly softened the language around
> community comments being our preferred mechanism and added a new final
> paragraph to address Paul’s and Mohamed’s points. We can keep tweaking
> this, but I’d like for ICANN to start getting it up on a web page in the
> meantime. New text:
> 
> ===
> 
> ICG Charter Open for Public Comments
> 
> On July 18, the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG)
> produced a draft charter <link> that defines its own tasks. The charter is
> open for public comment until August XX, 2014 at 20:00 UTC. <bold>It is
> the strong preference of the ICG that comments about the charter from the
> public be submitted via existing IANA-related community processes, and not
> through the link provided below.</bold> If you need assistance finding
> those processes or contacting the appropriate ICG participant, please
> contact <secretariat-email>. If you are not able to provide comments
> through a relevant community or ICG participant, a mechanism for
> submitting comments via an email alias is linked below.
> 
> Please be aware that the ICG views defining the broad outlines of its
> charter as important, but it views finalizing the charter and moving on to
> the real work of the transition planning to be of equal importance. As a
> result not all comments submitted concerning the charter will necessarily
> be incorporated.
> 
> Public comments are considered to be for the public record, and for the
> information and consideration of all participants in this process, not
> just for the ICG. Everyone is encouraged to review any public comments
> that may be submitted via the process below.
> 
> Public comment submission process links:
> 
> Comment submission: <link>
> List of comments submitted via this site: <link>
> Charter: <link> 
> Deadline: August XX, 2014 at 20:00 UTC
> 
> 
> ===
> 
> Alissa
> 
> On 8/5/14, 11:47 AM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson at apnic.net> wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Daniel’s proposal here.
>>
>> Can we state that public comments are considered to be for the public
>> record, and for the information and consideration of all participants in
>> this process, not just for the ICG.  This is reasonable I think, along
>> with the emphasis on contributions via the relevant communities.
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 1:30 am, Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net>
>> wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>> I agree that we should set up a mechanism for comments from the
>>> general public with the following properties:
>>>
>>> It clearly, bluntly, repeatedly and unavoidably states that the
>>> preferred method for participation is via the relevant communities.
>>>  Maybe we should have a check box where people have to acknowledge
>>> that they understand this before they can post a comment. ;-)
>>>
>>> All comments should be stored in a public archive for all to see,
>>> including for us. Comments in this archive should be kept available
>>> for all to see for at least 5 years after they are made.
>>>
>>> Discussion should be strongly discouraged in this mechanism. There are
>>> other places for that already; the most appropriate are the relevant
>>> communities.
>>>
>>> We can then see all these comments and take them into account as
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>>
>>> - ----
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments for the charter should be treated as just a special case of
>>> the above.  14 calendar days is about the right time for this as this
>>> is about the time we would need to get substantive comments from our
>>> communities and I do not see that final agreement on the charter will
>>> substantially delay our other current work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel
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