[Internal-cg] Chair structure.
kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Thu Aug 7 15:31:14 UTC 2014
Please do not be emotional nor surprised We need to do the job properly
I agree with Milton that ICG is not the basic drafter or developer of the
IANA transition proposals..
However, we really want the proper representation of regional variations
or "citizenships" in the process transition .I do not know how one could
judge that we are not focusing on getting people from various regions and
"citizenships" involved in proposal development..
We are committed to do so.
We need to properly address who should be in the leadership of the Group
and how different people should react in full neutrality and impartiality .
I do not understand why some people are so sensitive about the formal
disclosure of their nationality and affiliation.
We need to avoid any individual influences the process
We need to avoid that any one member of ICG dominate the process
I do not see any tendency here to develop positions on ICG issues among
Certainly we are looking toward to build consensus but when we hear an
adjective like soft and hard or rough before consensus we ask ourselves
that we have already following certain avenue or proposing certain approach
not commonly recognized by multistake community such rough consensus in
which the chair is given the authority to judge when he or she would stop
further action to build full consensus.
I also do not see very useful to have three persons as called co-chairs
What is the problem of regional representation *having* one chair and four
vice chairs representing four ICANN geographic regions, except the region
from which the chair comes from?
I am also not comfortable to decide something in a definitive manner before
the full ICG meets in Istanbul
One chair and four vice chairs forming a team “management Team “is an
approach that has worked well without any major deficiency
Let us work with each other .Let us understand each other and pursue one
single objective that is an open ,transparent, unbiased, democratic, process
2014-08-07 17:00 GMT+02:00 Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>:
> I agree with Wolf. I can't help but think that this proposal, and more
> importantly the level of priority that is being given to the structure of
> chairs, is based on the false premise that the ICG is the basic drafter or
> developer of the IANA transition proposals. It is not. If you want proper
> representative of regional variations or "citizenships" in this transition,
> you'd better focus on getting people from those regions and "citizenships"
> involved in proposal development.** I also detect a certain tendency here
> to develop positions on ICG issues among our own silos rather than seeking
> consensus and ideas among the ICG members themselves. Both tendencies are
> counterproductive IMHO.
> ** Once you do that, you will probably learn that the correlation between
> region, citizenship and specific positions re IANA proposals is a random
> one, too.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > I must say I'm surprised by this ALAC proposal because it seems to me not
> > consistent with what we have heard so far from ALAC and have found most
> > agreement to after vivid discussion on the list - namely the 3 (co-)chair
> > model.
> > I'm asking myself why this shouldn't lead other member groups thinking
> > about earlier models already discussed or new ones.
> > In addition the process may have to be detailed with respect to the
> > scheme.
> > From my point of view I can say that the 3 chair model (as well as 1 or
> 2) is
> > backed by the CSG I'm representing. Re the ALAC proposal I'd like to
> > back to them. As a constituency call has been already scheduled for
> > 11 Aug I could only come back after this call. I'd like the ICG taking
> this into
> > consideration when scheduling the process.
> > In between I understand the call for (co-,vice-) chair positions is
> already open
> > independent from the number of positions. In this regard I welcom
> > Mohamed's nomination. Maybe Alissa could update us on the candidacies so
> > fare received.
> > Best regards
> > Wolf-Ulrich
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