[Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Mon Aug 11 19:43:34 UTC 2014


Dear Alissa,
What about the Vice chairs
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Kavouss


2014-08-11 21:34 GMT+02:00 Jon Nevett <jon at donuts.co>:

> Agreed.  It appears that we have consensus with just a few holdouts.
>  Let's move on.  Thanks.  Jon
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>
> > I would also support the consensus call here. I believe the overwhelming
> majority of the group supports 1+2, and that the minority objections to it
> pertained to regional/citizenship diversity. I thought that these concerns
> had been met by the withdrawal of K. Drazek as a candidate and the
> understanding that the +2 would be from different regions.
> >
> > --MM
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-
> >> bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper
> >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:48 PM
> >> To: Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
> >> Cc: ICG
> >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward
> >>
> >> Hi Jean-Jacques,
> >>
> >> On 8/11/14, 8:31 AM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs at dyalog.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sorry Alissa,
> >>>
> >>> I'm afraid there is neither clarity nor consensus on the way forward on
> >>> this point, and that the deadline will have to be extended.
> >>
> >> As interim chair, I made the consensus call last week, in my email
> below.
> >> It continues to stand, and I believe I have the support of the bulk of
> the
> >> group behind me. Consensus involves accommodating objections to the best
> >> extent possible while maintaining broad support within the group. It
> does
> >> not require unanimity and cannot be held up by a small minority of
> objectors.
> >>
> >> So we are on track to get the selection going once the deadline expires
> later
> >> today.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alissa
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Jean-Jacques.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Mail original -----
> >>> De: "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in>
> >>> À: "ICG" <internal-cg at icann.org>
> >>> Envoyé: Lundi 11 Août 2014 17:24:34
> >>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward
> >>>
> >>> Reminder: People who wish to volunteer for a chair role need to do so
> >>> by
> >>> 23:59 UTC today, Aug 11. I believe the current list of volunteers is as
> >>> follows:
> >>>
> >>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
> >>> Patrik Fälström
> >>> Mohamed El Bashir
> >>> Alissa Cooper
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Alissa
> >>>
> >>> On 8/7/14, 10:57 AM, "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks to everyone for engaging on the topic of chair structure.
> >>>> Taking in all of the in-person and email discussion thus far, I think
> >>>> we have a viable path forward. My observations are:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. In response to the compromise I suggested on July 31 [i], the group
> >>>> demonstrated broad support for a 1+2 structure, with an objection from
> >>>> Jean-Jacques and ALAC. This included support from people who had
> >>>> previously stated preferences for other structures, and even support
> >>>> from people who had previously said they could not live with 1+2. This
> >>>> is what some people might call “consensus” and what I would normally
> >>>> describe as “rough consensus” in support of 1+2.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. We have very strong support for a “1+something” chair structure,
> >>>> following the recent mail from Jean-Jacques [ii]. I don’t think we
> >>>> have anyone objecting to 1+something at this point.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. We have had lengthy discussions on the list about geographic
> >>>> diversity. We have very strong support in the group for having
> >>>> geographically diverse participation throughout the stewardship
> >>>> transition plan development process. We have differences of opinion
> >>>> within the group about the extent to which that diversity must be
> >>>> required to extend to the chairs of the ICG.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. We have a demonstrated need to agree within the ICG about the
> >>>> methods, both electronic and in-person, that we will use to arrive at
> >>>> and judge consensus within this group going forward.
> >>>>
> >>>> Taking the above into consideration, let's proceed as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> Go forward with a 1+2 structure — 1 chair and 2 vice-chairs. I believe
> >>>> the current list of people who have volunteered to serve in these
> >>>> roles
> >>>> is:
> >>>>
> >>>> Russ Housley
> >>>> Patrik Fälström
> >>>> Mohamed El Bashir
> >>>> Keith Drazek
> >>>> Alissa Cooper
> >>>>
> >>>> (I do not think we need re-confirmations from the above people because
> >>>> they have mostly re-confirmed already on the list at some point over
> >>>> the last several weeks, but if any of the above listed people wants to
> >>>> withdraw, please say so.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Taking the suggestion from Jean-Jacques, I think we should give people
> >>>> a few more days to volunteer. So if you would like to volunteer,
> >>>> please make that known on the list by August 11, 23:59 UTC.
> >>>>
> >>>> On August 12, Joe, who previously agreed to detail the chair roles and
> >>>> run the selection process [iii], and Wolf-Ulrich, who has agreed to
> >>>> help Joe while Joe is traveling, will launch the selection process. In
> >>>> making their selections, ICG participants should take the geographic
> >>>> diversity discussions we’ve had into account.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe and Wolf-Ulrich will also begin drafting a proposal that describes
> >>>> the methods the group will use for arriving at and judging consensus
> >>>> going forward, and will make that proposal available to the group for
> >>>> discussion when it is ready.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Alissa
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [i] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000582.html
> >>>>
> >>>> [ii]
> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-August/000769.html
> >>>>
> >>>> [iii] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000381.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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