[Internal-cg] Participation in ICG - 6 points to reach consensus on

[Mohamed El Bashir]

Hi Patrik,

Sorry I missed commenting on your bellow email, on short leave with limited Internet access. 

I do support your raised 5 points, for no.6, supporting option "D" with Joe suggestion to introduce authors auditing/changes tracking mechanism.

Kind Regards,
Mohamed 

> On 30 Jul 2014, at 16:35, Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
> 
> Alissa,
> 
> My summary of the feedback is as follows.
> 
> I created the proposal and because of that of course stand behind all suggestions.
> 
> In addition, I have seen feedback from:
> 
> Adiel Akplogan
> Joseph Alhadeff
> Lynn St.Amour
> Manal Ismail
> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
> Milton Müller
> Jon Nevett
> Jean-Jacques Subrenat
> Paul Wilson
> 
> I.e. 10 people I know the view of.
> 
> Everyone of those commenting agree with the following 6 suggestions for the first 5 issues:
> 
>> 1. Members and liaisons to ICG
>> 
>> Suggestion: When consensus is to be reached, consensus is only among
>> members (not members+liaisons).
>> 
>> 2. Support staff
>> 
>> Suggestion: We accept the proposal from ICANN to until further notice
>> from ICG continue with this set of support staff: Theresa, Ergys,
>> Alice, Jim and Hillary.
>> 
>> 3. Interim appointed GAC member
>> 
>> Suggestion: The IGC thank Tracy for the ability to participate.
>> 
>> 4. Minutes of our meeting
>> 
>> Suggestion: We postpone discussion on minutes and otherwise record
>> taking of our future meetings to the discussion on the Secretariat.
>> 
>> Suggestion: Until minutes from first meeting are complete, Sam
>> Dickingson should be treated as support staff (together with Theresa,
>> Ergys, Alice, Jim and Hillary).
>> 
>> 5. ICANN backup contacts
>> 
>> Suggestion: We support ICANN in this proposal, thanks Jamie and Grace
>> for their ability to help, and I validate the situation that they have
>> been removed from the mailing list and that way got special treatment
>> compared with other ICANN staff.
> 
> For the last issue, regarding "write access" to our documents the feedback is split.
> 
> First a reminder what I wrote:
> 
>> 6. Write access to our documents
>> 
>> Everyone is to be given read access to our documents. Question is who
>> should get read/write access.
>> 
>> We have a number of alternatives here, and which one we choose depends
>> on what answers we get on the questions above.
>> 
>> Alternative A: Members only
>> 
>> Today members of ICG do have write access, and update of documents
>> there depends on members doing explicit actions.
>> 
>> Alternative B: Members + liaisons
>> 
>> To make feedback loop from liaisons easier, we also give write access
>> for liaisons. This do give ability for liaisons to write in documents,
>> which might be preferable for example in the form of change tags in
>> Word documents.
>> 
>> Alternative C: Members + Support Staff
>> 
>> By letting support staff write to documents members will be relieved
>> from the task of updating documents and otherwise do purely
>> administerial tasks.
>> 
>> Alternative D: Members + Liaisons + Support Staff
>> 
>> A merge of alternative B and C. In reality it implies (given my
>> suggestion on issue 5 above finds consensus in ICG) that all members of
>> this mailing list do get read/write access to the documents.
>> 
>> Suggestion: Alternative D, i.e. all Members, Liaisons and Support
>> Staff get read/write access to our documents.
> 
> Out of the individuals I have heard from, I have the following feedback, in order depending on how supportive the individuals are of D and other alternatives:
> 
> D, with additional information that in practice it is the only workable alternative:
> 
> Patrik Fältström
> Paul Wilson
> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
> Lynn St.Amour
> 
> D, without any details:
> 
> Jon Nevett
> Manal Ismail
> Jean-Jacques Subrenat
> 
> D, with the constraint that it must be possible to trace who made what change:
> 
> Joseph Alhadeff
> 
> Prefer C, but can live with D:
> 
> Adiel Akplogan
> 
> Against D, and instead prefer A:
> 
> Milton Müller
> 
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
>    Regards, Patrik
> 
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