[Internal-cg] Participation in ICG - 6 points to reach consensus on
Patrik Fältström
paf at frobbit.se
Thu Jul 31 06:10:07 UTC 2014
Thanks Mohamed.
Patrik
On 30 jul 2014, at 23:34, Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir at mbash.net> wrote:
> Hi Patrik,
>
> Sorry I missed commenting on your bellow email, on short leave with limited Internet access.
>
> I do support your raised 5 points, for no.6, supporting option "D" with Joe suggestion to introduce authors auditing/changes tracking mechanism.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Mohamed
>
> On 30 Jul 2014, at 16:35, Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se> wrote:
>
>> Alissa,
>>
>> My summary of the feedback is as follows.
>>
>> I created the proposal and because of that of course stand behind all suggestions.
>>
>> In addition, I have seen feedback from:
>>
>> Adiel Akplogan
>> Joseph Alhadeff
>> Lynn St.Amour
>> Manal Ismail
>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>> Milton Müller
>> Jon Nevett
>> Jean-Jacques Subrenat
>> Paul Wilson
>>
>> I.e. 10 people I know the view of.
>>
>> Everyone of those commenting agree with the following 6 suggestions for the first 5 issues:
>>
>>> 1. Members and liaisons to ICG
>>>
>>> Suggestion: When consensus is to be reached, consensus is only among
>>> members (not members+liaisons).
>>>
>>> 2. Support staff
>>>
>>> Suggestion: We accept the proposal from ICANN to until further notice
>>> from ICG continue with this set of support staff: Theresa, Ergys,
>>> Alice, Jim and Hillary.
>>>
>>> 3. Interim appointed GAC member
>>>
>>> Suggestion: The IGC thank Tracy for the ability to participate.
>>>
>>> 4. Minutes of our meeting
>>>
>>> Suggestion: We postpone discussion on minutes and otherwise record
>>> taking of our future meetings to the discussion on the Secretariat.
>>>
>>> Suggestion: Until minutes from first meeting are complete, Sam
>>> Dickingson should be treated as support staff (together with Theresa,
>>> Ergys, Alice, Jim and Hillary).
>>>
>>> 5. ICANN backup contacts
>>>
>>> Suggestion: We support ICANN in this proposal, thanks Jamie and Grace
>>> for their ability to help, and I validate the situation that they have
>>> been removed from the mailing list and that way got special treatment
>>> compared with other ICANN staff.
>>
>> For the last issue, regarding "write access" to our documents the feedback is split.
>>
>> First a reminder what I wrote:
>>
>>> 6. Write access to our documents
>>>
>>> Everyone is to be given read access to our documents. Question is who
>>> should get read/write access.
>>>
>>> We have a number of alternatives here, and which one we choose depends
>>> on what answers we get on the questions above.
>>>
>>> Alternative A: Members only
>>>
>>> Today members of ICG do have write access, and update of documents
>>> there depends on members doing explicit actions.
>>>
>>> Alternative B: Members + liaisons
>>>
>>> To make feedback loop from liaisons easier, we also give write access
>>> for liaisons. This do give ability for liaisons to write in documents,
>>> which might be preferable for example in the form of change tags in
>>> Word documents.
>>>
>>> Alternative C: Members + Support Staff
>>>
>>> By letting support staff write to documents members will be relieved
>>> from the task of updating documents and otherwise do purely
>>> administerial tasks.
>>>
>>> Alternative D: Members + Liaisons + Support Staff
>>>
>>> A merge of alternative B and C. In reality it implies (given my
>>> suggestion on issue 5 above finds consensus in ICG) that all members of
>>> this mailing list do get read/write access to the documents.
>>>
>>> Suggestion: Alternative D, i.e. all Members, Liaisons and Support
>>> Staff get read/write access to our documents.
>>
>> Out of the individuals I have heard from, I have the following feedback, in order depending on how supportive the individuals are of D and other alternatives:
>>
>> D, with additional information that in practice it is the only workable alternative:
>>
>> Patrik Fältström
>> Paul Wilson
>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>> Lynn St.Amour
>>
>> D, without any details:
>>
>> Jon Nevett
>> Manal Ismail
>> Jean-Jacques Subrenat
>>
>> D, with the constraint that it must be possible to trace who made what change:
>>
>> Joseph Alhadeff
>>
>> Prefer C, but can live with D:
>>
>> Adiel Akplogan
>>
>> Against D, and instead prefer A:
>>
>> Milton Müller
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Regards, Patrik
>>
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