[Internal-cg] FAQ - deadline for comments

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Mon Oct 6 21:55:58 UTC 2014


Manal and all:

I would suggest that you change this sentence: 
" The ICG seeks complete proposals from the "operational communities" through processes which are open to participation by "other interested parties".  

To this: 

The ICG seeks complete proposals from processes convened by the "operational communities" which are open to participation by "other interested parties."

The point being, we are not just getting proposals from the OCs, we are getting them from a process convened by each OC. Confusion about this has already caused trouble and we do not want to give anyone the wrong idea that only directly affected parties can participate in the proposal development process.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manal Ismail [mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg]
> Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 5:16 PM
> To: Alissa Cooper
> Cc: Narelle Clark; Kavouss Arasteh; Milton L Mueller; ICG
> Subject: RE: FAQ - deadline for comments
> 
> Thanks Alissa ..
> 
> Dear All ..
> 
> Please find attached, and in Dropbox, version 3, clean and in track changes ..
> In the clean version, I have:
> - accepted edits by Narelle, all extremely helpful, which I believe have also
> addressed some of the comments received
> - deleted comments I felt have been addressed
> - deleted questions 8 & 9, for the time being, following the below exchange
> - modified question 7 to read "Does IANA carry out functions other than
> names, number & protocol identifiers?" and would appreciate help in listing
> IANA functions not under NTIA contact
> - in addition to Q7, I believe there are unaddressed comments on Q12 &
> Q18
> 
> Looking forward to receiving your comments by 23:59 UTC on October 7 ..
> 
> Kind Regards
> --Manal
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa at cooperw.in]
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 6:52 PM
> To: Manal Ismail
> Cc: Narelle Clark; Kavouss Arasteh; Milton L Mueller; ICG
> Subject: FAQ - deadline for comments
> 
> All,
> 
> So that we can get a draft, living version of the FAQ posted to the web site
> prior to ICANN 51, we need to give Manal a little time to compile outstanding
> comments and create a clean version. Comments sent to the list about the
> FAQ prior to 23:59 UTC on October 7 will be incorporated into the initial
> version we publish on the web. Of course we will continue discussion and
> refinement of the FAQ after that, but if you want your edits incorporated into
> the initial version that we publish, please send them in before the deadline.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alissa
> 
> On Oct 5, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Manal Ismail <manal at tra.gov.eg> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the responses ..
> > I believe we have agreed to have a version out before LA, right?
> > If yes, then maybe we should set a cutoff date for comments, after
> which we should compile an agreed version to be posted online, and
> continue discussing any remaining 'relevant' questions ..
> >
> > Views received so far, which I personally share and Narelle showed
> flexibility, are in favour of deleting Q9 ..
> >
> > As for Q7, I personally agree to deleting it, but allow me to propose
> a middle ground .. It may be changed to read "Does IANA carry out functions
> other than names, number & protocol identifiers?", although the answer
> may be the same, it  would be stating facts rather than predicting outcome of
> the process .. thoughts?
> >
> > Q8 is one of the questions that were listed for the session held at
> the IGF, but I agree to its deletion ..
> >
> > Waiting for further comments before compiling a new version ..
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > --Manal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org
> > [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Narelle Clark
> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 2:56 AM
> > To: Kavouss Arasteh; Milton L Mueller
> > Cc: internal-cg at icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] ICG FAQ ..
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, 3 October 2014 5:01 AM
> >>
> >> I agree with Milton in regard with IANA INVOKING POWER .However, I
> >> would like to know whether the replacement of NTIA ,if any, would
> >> have the same or would excercise the same power?
> >
> > Like I said, I am not wed to the inclusion of the question re
> invocation of power. As they say, I was merely flying a kite as it is a question I
> have been frequently receiving.
> >
> > To the latter question, that surely is up to the communities to
> propose and decide.
> >
> > And a good question, indeed.
> >
> >> In regard with his second comment, I am not sure that we should limit
> 
> >> ourselcves to say  about who were are; what we do; how to respond to
> >> our RFP; the respective roles of the ICG, operational communities,
> >> USG; how people can get involved in any of those activities.
> >> I do not see any problem if we could provide information on IANA, the
> 
> >> IANA transition, and ICANN accountability
> >
> > I agree they are questions people need and want answers to. Whether we
> should be the ones to provide them is subject to how much time we have as
> it can be a long diversion...
> >
> > The risk is that it dilutes our credibility as impartial coordinators
> of the community finding its own answers.
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> > Narelle
> >
> >
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