[Internal-cg] consensus building

[Kavouss Arasteh]

Dear All,
Thank you very much for V5 Draft
Still many of my suggestions were not taken into account
e.g.
ICG is expected ... where as I clearly mentioned that we should not talk
about or refer to expectation rather talk about or refer to what should be
done either mandatory " shall "  or morally mandatory " should " or between
the two " needs to "
Quorums
What is the criteria used ," at least  one member from each communities"
 what are these communities quantitatively
We should always talk about number ( s) I suggested at least 2/3 or 4/5 BUT
CERTAINLY NOT 1/2since it is totally in appropriate that for such a
delicate ,sensitive issue 14 out of 30 disagree and still we take the
decision is valid.
Please look at all international law decision making process 2/3 is the
minimum

There are other examples that my points were not taken into account
Please kindly reconsider the matter and carefully examine them and proceed
Regards
Kavouss


2014-09-02 15:16 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:

> Dear All,
> Thank you very much for V5 Draft
> Still many of my suggestions were not taken into account
> e.g.
> ICG is expected ... where as I clearly mentioned that we should not talk
> about or refer to expectation rather talk about or refer to what should be
> done either mandatory " shall "  or morally mandatory " should " or between
> the two " needs to "
> Quorums
> What is the criteria used ," at least  one member from each communities"
>  what are these communities quantitatively
> We should always talk about number ( s) I suggested at least 2/3 or 4/5
> BUT CERTAINLY NOT 1/2since it is totally in appropriate that for such a
> delicate ,sensitive issue 14 out of 30 disagree and still we take the
> decision is valid.
> Please look at all international law decision making process 2/3 is the
> minimum
>
> There are other examples that my points were not taken into account
> Please kindly reconsider the matter and carefully examine them and proceed
> Regards
> Kavouss
>
>
> 2014-09-02 0:19 GMT+02:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>:
>
>>   All,
>>
>> attached is draft version v5 of the consensus building document which
>> I’ve also uploaded to the dropbox.
>>
>> In addition I send you the “ICG-Consensus Building_draft_v4 + MB (1),KA
>> V3JHA” with all latest revisions and comments from your side (I hope I’m
>> right). I have inserted my comments to yours as well as proposals on how to
>> proceed. ICG-Consensus Building_draft_v5 is the result of this exercise:
>>
>>    - it is explained that ICANN Board Liaison and ICANN Staff Laison
>>    Expert are not taking part in the decision making
>>    - “participants” replaced by “members”
>>    - quorum for decision making is defined as: A quorum is a majority of
>>    ICG members and must include at least one member of each ICG community (
>>    https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/coordination-group-2014-06-17-en;
>>    16 or more). This would cover Martins respective comment. If required
>>    something could be included in case of unintended absence.
>>    - re 4.a Personnel Decisions: in the second para. I suggest to lift
>>    the voting threshold to the level of the quorum as defined. Otherwise a
>>    voting with 9 affirmative votes may succeed which seems to be unbalanced.
>>    - “small minority”: should further be discussed. I added the
>>    condition that a recommendation is not reached if at least one of the ICG
>>    communities (according to the list) as a whole is firmly and formally
>>    opposed. That would mean a formal written objection by the community
>>    leadership on behalf of their community.
>>    - minority views – if any – should be expressed in the report (maybe
>>    as an annex)
>>    - chair / (and/or) vicechairs: I think the respective roles, proxies
>>    etc. should be added to the “chair responsibility” document. Then here in
>>    the consensus building document reference is only made to the chair.
>>
>>
>>    Please provide your comments with the “comment” function in order to
>>    make it easier to manage.
>>
>>    Best regards
>>
>>    Wolf-Ulrich
>>
>>
>>
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