[Internal-cg] IETF response to ICG

[Drazek, Keith]

I agree with Milton.

Keith Drazek

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From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 9:58 AM
To: Paul Wilson; Alissa Cooper
Cc: ICG
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IETF response to ICG

I find myself in the middle ground on this discussion. 

I don't think it is appropriate for people who were actively engaged in developing a proposal, and who come only from the affected operational community, to be the ONLY ones evaluating it for the ICG as a whole. That lack of objectivity will not have the legitimacy we need. 

On the other hand, I think it is important for someone who understands how the proposal evolved and why certain decisions were made to be present during the evaluation. So I would call for both types of parties to play a role in the initial evaluation, rather than excluding one or the other. 

--MM

> -----Original Message-----
> From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:internal-cg- 
> bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wilson
> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:48 PM
> To: Alissa Cooper
> Cc: ICG
> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] IETF response to ICG
> 
> I have an alternative suggestion, that the ICG members from the 
> proposal's community could carry out the assessment as required in 
> Step I, and document thoroughly and specifically how the proposal 
> satisfies the given criteria (i.e. A1/2/3 and B1/2/3).  This is 
> something that can be done much more readily and thoroughly (IMHO) by 
> ICG members who already understand the proposal fully.
> 
> This initial assessment (to be produced by say 30 Jan) would then be 
> reviewed by the rest of the ICG, and discussed in detail during the 
> face-face meeting on Feb 6/7 in Singapore.
> 
> And I assume Step I will have some kind of formal "sign off" by the 
> ICG as a whole before we move on to Step II (whether we do that in 
> Singapore or later).
> 
> Does that make sense?
> 
> Paul.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On 7 Jan 2015, at 8:58 am, Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
> 
> > Thank you, Jari.
> >
> > It would be great if we could get some volunteers to conduct Step I 
> > of the
> finalization process 
> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/iana-
> transition-assembly-finalization-24dec14-en.pdf> for this proposal, 
> say within the next 2 weeks. Please respond to the list if you're 
> willing to conduct this assessment.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alissa
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko at piuha.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> As you know, the IETF has been working on the protocol parameters 
> >> aspects of the transition. We created the IANAPLAN working group, 
> >> developed a proposed response, and held community discussions.
> >> And of course, there has been a lot of past evolution in this space 
> >> as well.
> >>
> >> This part of the process is coming to an end from our side. Our 
> >> steering group, the IESG, approved the proposed response on 
> >> December 18, and after some minor editorial changes, the document 
> >> has been formally approved today, January 6.
> >>
> >> The link to our proposal is below, and we look forward to working 
> >> with the ICG and other communities on the next steps. We are 
> >> committed to ensuring a good outcome for the Internet in this topic.
> >>
> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09
> >>
> >> Jari Arkko
> >>
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