<div dir="ltr">Apologies, I got the amount of the current fee wrong, it is $5750 for the 'initial filing fee' for a 3-person panel... plus $7125 'final fee' for a decision. That is almost $13,000<div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The <span class="gmail-il">fee</span> schedule can be accessed <a href="https://www.adr.org/sites/default/files/International_Arbitration_Fee_Schedule.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> </span></p><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="203"><col width="86"><col width="335"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:20.25pt"><td rowspan="4" style="border-right:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:center;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:159px;height:95px"><img alt="Logo" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/S_Oxvn9Vep0rF8IVyiOnDwA4LymtHrWirggIxlsU26JihhEYDv5A5D03ZY0k_npND2t8xfiWCdTM5NTO_LSZMksjO_UlJm5IAP3FEi5cw96AwIPgVzvoOfHIux_qNA26n5UuxvQZ" width="159" height="95" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></p></td><td colspan="2" style="border-left:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:18pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">address:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">548 Market Street, Box 55819</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">San Francisco, CA 94104</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:12.75pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">email:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:24pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">phone:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">+1 (415) 738-8087</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:02 AM Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">As for other issues, I had posted an email re IRP Fees last Sept. Now the fee is $6,750 merely to initiate an IRP at the ICDR. I think that is an administrative fee that the Bylaws require ICANN to pay. But ICANN denies that, and forces claimants to pay it. I think it should cost far less to file a challenge to an ICANN decision. Note that it costs just $400 to file a lawsuit in U.S. federal court.<div><br></div><div>Also, we should discuss when an RFR is 'summarily dismissed' by the BAMC, which has only happened very rarely in the past. But it appears very unclear how or when such a dismissal can or must be challenged. And so that is another scenario that needs review by this group, imho.<div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span>Thanks,</span></div><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span>Mike<br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="203"><col width="86"><col width="335"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:20.25pt"><td rowspan="4" style="border-right:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:center;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:159px;height:95px"><img alt="Logo" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/S_Oxvn9Vep0rF8IVyiOnDwA4LymtHrWirggIxlsU26JihhEYDv5A5D03ZY0k_npND2t8xfiWCdTM5NTO_LSZMksjO_UlJm5IAP3FEi5cw96AwIPgVzvoOfHIux_qNA26n5UuxvQZ" width="159" height="95" style="margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"></span></span></p></td><td colspan="2" style="border-left:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:18pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">address:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">548 Market Street, Box 55819</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">San Francisco, CA 94104</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:12.75pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">email:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:24pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">phone:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">+1 (415) 738-8087</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:51 AM Susan Payne via IOT <<a href="mailto:iot@icann.org" target="_blank">iot@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Hi David
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Thank you for your thoughtful email. I will respond in writing as a follow up, but hope we will be able to also consider these suggestions
on the upcoming call.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">For convenience, hopefully, I have made a very light-touch update to the short slide deck we have been using to frame the discussion on
tolling – to correct a few areas of ambiguity that came up on the last call, as promised. These are noted in red.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">The updated version is attached and we can review this on the call.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Speak to those who are able to make it shortly.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> IOT <<a href="mailto:iot-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">iot-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>McAuley, David via IOT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 July 2021 12:20<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:iot@icann.org" target="_blank">iot@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IOT] Possible work remaining for IOT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear IOT colleagues,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Susan asked us to note any work items that we think remain to be done. In my personal opinion, these are possible tasks remaining beyond those mentioned by Susan on the last call:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">To develop a recall process relating to members of the standing panel – see Bylaw 4.3(j)(iii);<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<span lang="EN-US">To consider the development of additional independence requirements for members of the standing panel, including
<span style="color:black;background:white">term limits and restrictions on post-term appointment to other </span>ICANN<span style="color:black;background:white"> positions – see Bylaw 4.3(q)(i)(B) on conflicts of interests of members of the standing panel;</span><u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<span lang="EN-US">Do we want to establish ‘limitations’ on appeals? – see Bylaw 4.3(w) which states:<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<b><i><span lang="EN-US">Subject<span style="background:white"> to any limitations established through the Rules of Procedure, an IRP Panel decision may be appealed to the full Standing Panel sitting en banc within sixty (60) days of issuance of such decision.</span><u></u><u></u></span></i></b></li></ul>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span lang="EN-US">One possible limitation which I think we may want to consider is whether non-binding IRPs (see Bylaw 4.3(x)(iv)) should be appealable.
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</span></span></span><u></u><span lang="EN-US">Additionally, in this respect, is it within our remit to consider whether non-binding IRPs should constitute precedent?
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<span lang="EN-US">Is there ambiguity regarding a standing panel’s ability to ‘adjudicate’ a stay of ICANN action or just to ‘recommend’ a stay? See Bylaws 4.3(o) and 4.3(p). If there is ambiguity, is there anything within our remit to help clarify?
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<span lang="EN-US">Finally, with respect to the Rule 4 (Time for Filing) issue that we are currently discussing, should we clarify that the rule we eventually develop is either an affirmative defense that ICANN can raise, or not, as it sees fit or, alternatively,
a firm matter of standing that the panel should invoke on its own without exemption, subject only to the savings language that Sam and Liz are working on?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">David<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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