<div dir="ltr">Thanks Susan for this helpful list.<div><br></div><div>Re item 3, we should not only look at the IRP administrative fee charged by ICDR, but also other administrative costs such as copying and shipping of documents to panelists. In my view, that is a cost of administering the IRP that ICANN is bound to pay and ICDR is in best position to implement. It should not be a cost forced on claimants, which can easily exceed $1000 in a case. </div><div><br></div><div>I think there was a discussion already on translation costs which may be pertinent.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Mike</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="203"><col width="86"><col width="335"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:20.25pt"><td rowspan="4" style="border-right:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:center;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:159px;height:95px"><img alt="Logo" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/S_Oxvn9Vep0rF8IVyiOnDwA4LymtHrWirggIxlsU26JihhEYDv5A5D03ZY0k_npND2t8xfiWCdTM5NTO_LSZMksjO_UlJm5IAP3FEi5cw96AwIPgVzvoOfHIux_qNA26n5UuxvQZ" width="159" height="95" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></p></td><td colspan="2" style="border-left:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:18pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">address:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">548 Market Street, Box 55819</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">San Francisco, CA 94104</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:12.75pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">email:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:24pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">phone:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">+1 (415) 738-8087</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:43 AM Susan Payne via IOT <<a href="mailto:iot@icann.org">iot@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">All, with respect to agenda item 6, please see attached my attempt to pull together the various work items identified as outstanding, both
on the IRP rules themselves and other tasks assigned to this group.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I will introduce this on today’s call and then I hope you will all review and propose any edits or additions. Time permitting we will
also begin to discuss how best we can progress this work.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Susan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:"Poppins SemiBold";color:black">Susan Payne<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> IOT <<a href="mailto:iot-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">iot-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bernard Turcotte via IOT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 August 2021 18:51<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:iot@icann.org" target="_blank">iot@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IOT] IOT - -Agenda for IRP-IOT Meeting #75 31 August 2021 @ 19:00 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a name="m_-7055866697207629926__Hlk513727222"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(34,42,53)">IRP-IOT Meeting #75</span></b></a><span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(34,42,53)">31 August 2021 @ 19:00 UTC</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(34,42,53)">Agenda</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">1.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Review agenda and updates to SOIs</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">2.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Action items from the last meeting:</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;font-family:ArialMT">a.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:106%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;font-family:ArialMT">SE to produce draft language for repose including a safety valve as discussed.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;font-family:ArialMT">b.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:106%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;font-family:ArialMT">SE to look at maximum times for non-irp accountability mechanism.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">3.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">4.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Discussion with ICANN Ombuds.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">5.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Discussion with ICANN Legal wrt times for non-irp accountability mechanisms.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">6.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Matters outstanding and next steps on IRP Rules (list to follow).</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">7.</span><span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Next meeting – September 14, 2021, 17:00 UTC</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Bernard Turcotte</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">ICANN support to the IOT</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">For</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Susan Payne</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:ArialMT">Chair IOT</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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