<div dir="ltr">I echo Malcolm's sentiment that the role of the Emergency Panelist should be narrowly and precisely defined in our end product.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><span><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt" align="left"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="203"><col width="86"><col width="335"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:20.25pt"><td rowspan="4" style="border-right:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:middle;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:center;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="border:none;display:inline-block;overflow:hidden;width:159px;height:95px"><img alt="Logo" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/S_Oxvn9Vep0rF8IVyiOnDwA4LymtHrWirggIxlsU26JihhEYDv5A5D03ZY0k_npND2t8xfiWCdTM5NTO_LSZMksjO_UlJm5IAP3FEi5cw96AwIPgVzvoOfHIux_qNA26n5UuxvQZ" width="159" height="95" style="margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px"></span></span></p></td><td colspan="2" style="border-left:0.75pt solid rgb(0,133,61);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Mike Rodenbaugh</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:18pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">address:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">548 Market Street, Box 55819</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">San Francisco, CA 94104</span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:12.75pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">email:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:24pt"><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:3.6pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,133,61);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">phone:</span></p></td><td style="vertical-align:top;padding:5pt;overflow:hidden"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.53;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">+1 (415) 738-8087</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 3:36 AM Malcolm Hutty via IOT <<a href="mailto:iot@icann.org">iot@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-6075149667044422072">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all, <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My apologies for my absence last night without prior notice.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t have anything much to add to what I hope was a useful discussion on Susan’s straw man. For my part it seems a good suggestion, subject to any points that may have been raised in my absence.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, I would add one word of caution on finer detail for when it comes to implementing this. Susan’s proposal includes the following statement:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“The Emergency Panelist role will be expanded to allow Emergency Panelists to make determinations on procedural matters such as this.”<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">While I have no objection to the proposal, the Emergency Panelist is intended as an exceptional position, with a narrowly defined role. The three member panel should be the norm.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would not want the elaboration of more responsibilities for the Emergency Panelist such as this to create a sense that the role was defined only by example, rather than exhaustively, and that therefore the Emergency Panelist could acquire
more powers over time not previously contemplated because each addition seemed somewhat similar to those that came before, so as to erode the use of the three member panel.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Malcolm.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:rgb(112,48,160)"> Malcolm Hutty | Director, Legal and Policy<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> IOT <<a href="mailto:iot-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">iot-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Payne via IOT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 9, 2023 3:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:iot@icann.org" target="_blank">iot@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IOT] IRP-IOT Panelist Selection Update<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">During our last call, we spent our time largely focussed on the situation where the Standing Panel might lack “<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white">the requisite diversity of skill and experience needed for the particular IRP proceeding”,
as envisaged in the Bylaws Section 4.3(k)(ii). Frm that discussion, I think the key points raised were as follows:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Any rules we set should be light-touch. Need to allow the panel to have some procedural freedom, which has worked will to date;<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">The Standing Panel concept is an important one under the Bylaws, so any exception to this should be narrow and exceptional;<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">There is a need to clarify the mechanism to address the situation where the Standing Panel lacks the diversity of skill and experience. Whilst many felt that this decision needs to
rest with the Standing Panel (or its Chair), there was also support for finding a balance, since the parties may, in practice want to raise this as a concern;<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Care is needed not to invite actions/decisions from the full Standing Panel which might then have the effect of excluding them all from subsequently acting on the case;<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">The Bylaws also allow for an IRP Panel to seek expert input;<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">A determination on whether there is a lack of the requisite diversity of skill and expertise could be made by:<u></u><u></u></li><ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="circle">
<li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Full Standing Panel (risk that all are then conflicted from serving on the IRP Panel for the substantive dispute)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Chair of the Standing Panel (risk that the Chair then is excluded from serving on the IRP Panel in such cases)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Emergency Panelist (likely requires some expansion of this role; currently only seems to cover interim relief)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Allow the Standing Panel to set their own process<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Proposed way forward:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">The Standing Panel may, of its own volition and acting through the Chair of the Standing Panel, conclude that it lacks the
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white">requisite diversity of skill and experience in the Standing Panel for a particular case. They would need to identify the proposed path forward, for example that both parties select an IRP Panelist from the Standing
Panel and then the third IRP Panelist is selected from outside the Standing Panel, or that all IRP Panelists are selected from Outside the Standing Panel</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">A party can raise a concern that there is a lack of the
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white">requisite diversity of skill and experience in the Standing Panel for the particular case, which they would do at the time of IRP Panelist selection, i.e. before the 3-person IRP Panel is appointed.
</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Where raised by a party, an Emergency Panelist will be appointed to from within the Standing Panel to make the determination, unless and until the Standing Panel has set their own
procedure for handling such a situation.<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-6075149667044422072MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">The Emergency Panelist role will be expanded to allow Emergency Panelists to make determinations on procedural matters such as this. The expectation is that Standing Panelists will
take it in turns to serve as n Emergency Panelist, but this will be a matter of Standing Panel procedure for the Standing Panel to decide.<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have not amended the draft strawperson to reflect this, but would propose to do so after our call if there is support from the group.<u></u><u></u></p>
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