<div dir="auto">I will also be 30 minutes late.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Greg</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 11:02 Becky Burr via IOT <<a href="mailto:iot@icann.org">iot@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Please accept my advance apologies, I will join today's call 30 minutes late.</div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Becky</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:56 AM Susan Payne via IOT <<a href="mailto:iot@icann.org" target="_blank">iot@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Many thanks to Mike for your proposal and to Kavous for your comments.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kavous, I would like to be sure I understand your point with respect to the first example:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0cm"><span>If I understand correctly, you are expressing disagreement with the basis of the IRP claim that was brought in this case and the resulting
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Arasteh via IOT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:iot@icann.org" target="_blank">iot@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I could agree with Mike for the second case but DISAGREE for tge first case<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the first example the application was terminated inappropriately due to an invalid decision mixing up a an unfounded political <br>
Claim created from a political slogan in 1956 which did not have any valid ground<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As discussed on our call last week, I propose that the Rules require ICANN to notify gTLD applicants of an IRP complaint that seeks relief materially affecting their application. The time period for the notified applicants to file a request
for intervention would begin on the notice date.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. IRP Claimant is not an applicant. This happened re the .PersianGulf TLD application. IRP filed by a government requesting ICANN to terminate the application.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. IRP Claimant is applicant within a Contention Set. This happened many times, including re .Merck, .Hotel and .Web.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ICANN knows how to notify all gTLD applicants, as contact info is required in each application. And, ICANN can easily tell from the face of an IRP complaint whether it seeks relief that would materially affect a gTLD application. In such
cases, ICANN should provide notice to the affected applicants and allow them opportunity to intervene.<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am attaching a comparison document between the ICDR rule on Consolidation and the small team proposal. The column on the left has a high level summary and the full text of the
ICDR rule; on the right is the equivalent for the Small team’s proposed IRP Supplementary procedures and also gives a high level indication of how the current rules deal.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I produced this for my own benefit to assist when reviewing the ICDR process, but think that it could actually help us to structure our discussion on agenda item 3. There is no
need to have reviewed this therefore in advance, but it will hopefully be a convenient way to display the relevant texts.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Payne via IOT<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 7, 2023 5:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:iot@icann.org" target="_blank">iot@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IOT] IRP-IOT call 8 August 2023: Agenda</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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All, please see below the agenda for our call tomorrow<u></u><u></u></p>
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Review agenda and updates to SOIs<u></u><u></u></li><li>
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BT to circulate text of the ICDR rule on consolidation<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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Done: Art 8 Consolidation (page 18)<u></u><u></u></p>
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All to review, with particular regard to the consolidation process and role of the consolidation arbitrator and come to the meeting ready to discuss
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Discussion on the ICDR process for consolidation<u></u><u></u></li><li>
Continue review and discussion of other elements of the small team’s proposed revision to Rule 7, to the extent not addressed by the above
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AOB<u></u><u></u></li><li>
Next call 15 August 1800 UTC<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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