<div dir="ltr">All of these cases seem to me to require an evaluation by the panel. Someone has to decide if the prospective amicus meets the criteria</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Susan Payne via IOT <<a href="mailto:iot@icann.org">iot@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-1951421519455362217">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks to everyone for a good call last Tuesday. We will be picking this up again on Tuesday 29<sup>th</sup> to get through the rules on Amicus participation, but it would be very helpful if you can continue to share thoughts on this over
the mailing list before the call.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As currently drafted, our proposed Rules envisage that those with a material interest relevant to the Dispute have a right to participate as an Amicus, and that a subset of participants are deemed to have a material interest, such that
they would be permitted to participate as of right without having to demonstrate to the Panel that they have a material interest.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The questions we were debating during our discussion of Rule 7 (25) were:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="m_-1951421519455362217MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">If you can demonstrate you have a material interest relevant to the Dispute, are you automatically permitted to be an Amicus, or should there still be some Panel Discretion?<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-1951421519455362217MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">If there is some Panel Discretion should the groups identified in (i) – (iii) be automatically permitted, i.e. no Panel discretion? Would this be better expressed as a presumption
that they have a right to participate, thereby retaining some minimal discretion for the Panel?<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-1951421519455362217MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Do we agree that (iv) effectively re-states the general eligibility for an Amicus, rather than identifying a specific group of interested entities, and so is not appropriate for the
automatic permission/presumption<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-1951421519455362217MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Should the Parties have the opportunity to raise objections, to be taken into consideration by the IRP Panel?<u></u><u></u></li><li class="m_-1951421519455362217MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm">Does “material interest relevant to the Dispute” adequately cover the scenario Malcolm raised where the entity might be materially impacted by a potential interpretation of the Bylaws
which might be reached by the Panel in deciding the Dispute?<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For convenience, Rule 7 (25) is reproduced below (with a couple of edits in red that did have strong agreement on the last call):<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%">Any person, group, or entity that has a material interest relevant to the DISPUTE<span style="color:red">, even if they do</span>
<s><span style="color:red">but does</span></s><span style="color:red"> </span>not satisfy the standing requirements for a CLAIMANT set forth in the Bylaws<span style="color:red">,</span> may participate as an amicus curiae before an IRP PANEL, subject to the
limitations set forth in these sections 25 – 29. </span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;color:rgb(19,22,25)">The purpose of participation as an amicus curiae is to assist the IRP Panel by offering information, expertise or other input that has a bearing
on the issues in the DISPUTE. </span><s><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;color:red">[</span></s><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;color:rgb(19,22,25)">For the avoidance of doubt, an amicus curiae is not a party to the DISPUTE.</span><s><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;color:red">]</span></s><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%;color:rgb(19,22,25)">
</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%">Without limitation to the persons, groups, or entities that may have such a material interest, the following persons, groups, or entities shall be deemed to have a material interest relevant to the DISPUTE
and, upon request of person, group, or entity seeking to so participate, shall be permitted to participate as an amicus before the IRP PANEL:
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<u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%"><span>i.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%">A person, group or entity that participated in an underlying proceeding (a process-specific expert panel per ICANN Bylaws, Article 4, Section 4.3(b)(iii)(A)(3)) the outcome of which
is material and relevant to the DISPUTE; <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%"><span>ii.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%">If the IRP relates to an application arising out of ICANN’s New gTLD Program, a person, group or entity that was part of a contention set for the string at issue in the IRP;
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_-1951421519455362217MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72pt;line-height:106%">
<u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%"><span>iii.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%">If the briefings before the IRP PANEL significantly refer to actions taken by a person, group or entity that is external to the DISPUTE, such external person, group or entity; and<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%"><span>iv.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%">A person, group or entity that is directly and materially impacted by the Covered Action which is the subject of the DISPUTE, but does not meet the requirements to be a CLAIMANT
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<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:106%">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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