[Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call - Thursday 07 November 2013- RALOs lack of feedback

Tue Nov 5 04:18:56 UTC 2013

about points 1,4,5,6 and 7:
-What are those directly and indirectly involved?
-Als can participate in votes of ALAC?

These precisions are needed to understand the level of participation of Als
in the activities of ALAC and RALO.

*SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
*REPRESENTANT OFFICIEL TICAFRICA ET CYBERVILLAGE at FRICA/RDC*

*COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFECCOORDINATION NATIONALE REPRONTIC*

Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
skype                 : b.schombe
blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr

2013/11/5 Baudouin SCHOMBE <b.schombe at gmail.com>

> I support Maureen position because it is often not necessary to say the
> same thing when there was a contribution that takes into account what is
> meant.
>
> I propose that recapitulatif be done regularly after a certain stage in
> order to allow each other to stay in constant even as the overall dynamics.
>
> Furthermore, I would like to know what happens in the space of wiki work.
> I still can not get to post my comment
>
> *SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN*
> *REPRESENTANT OFFICIEL TICAFRICA ET CYBERVILLAGE at FRICA/RDC*
>
> *COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFEC COORDINATION NATIONALE REPRONTIC*
>
> Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512
> email                  : b.schombe at gmail.com
> skype                 : b.schombe
> blog                    : http://akimambo.unblog.fr
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/11/5 Maureen Hilyard <hilyard at oyster.net.ck>
>
>> Hello Fatimata
>>
>>
>>
>> You highlight a real problem that I foresee.. how does one define
>> “participation” and “contribution”?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think about the number of times when my contribution at a meeting has
>> been “+1” because someone much more articulate than I has said exactly what
>> I wanted to say.
>>
>>
>>
>> We also have to balance ordinary meetings with contributions that members
>> make to working groups, as pen-holders or even if just to the online and
>> written conversations which are much more interactive in a working group
>> role.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps rather than measures, we should be establishing *benchmarks*which can look at all types of involvement (360 degrees) and which might
>> help to identify  “active” or “not so active” involvement in a much more
>> friendly way.
>>
>>
>>
>> These are all the things we have got to nut out. And no doubt we will, in
>> Buenos Aires. Looking forward to seeing you there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Fatimata [mailto:fsylla at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 4 November 2013 2:01 p.m.
>> *To:* Maureen Hilyard
>> *Cc:* Silvia Vivanco; ICANN At-Large Staff; METRICS
>> *Subject:* Re: [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call -
>> Thursday 07 November 2013- RALOs lack of feedback
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Maureen,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bravo for the excellent draft.  We might need to explain more the
>> definition of ALAC status. Will it be the same to just be present at
>> meetings than be present and participate?  The answer is NO but let me ask
>> more questions.  Does participate mean having something to say even if that
>> is just "I agree"  ? Should participants need to say something any how to
>> be considered? Does significant attendance mean you attend X meetings + at
>> least 2X comments?
>>
>>
>>
>> I just want to better understand the logic.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Fatimata Seye Sylla
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On 4 nov. 2013, at 15:10, "Maureen Hilyard" <hilyard at oyster.net.ck>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Silvia for those words of comfort…
>>
>>
>>
>> I am very sure that everyone has been extremely busy getting over the IGF
>> and preparing for BA , and  no doubt they are already busily discussing the
>> issues among themselves J
>>
>>
>>
>> It is not an easy topic to be raising, I completely understand. But we
>> are all accountable and the ICANN bean-counters will be wanting to ensure
>> that they are getting their money’s worth, even from the volunteers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps we will get more feedback from the combined team in BA.. the Secs
>> will already have enough to discuss at their meeting on Friday, but if I
>> can just give a short pitch about the responsibility that has been thrust
>> upon me, then that would be great.
>>
>>
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Silvia Vivanco [mailto:silvia.vivanco at icann.org<silvia.vivanco at icann.org>]
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, 4 November 2013 9:01 a.m.
>> *To:* Maureen Hilyard; ICANN At-Large Staff; 'METRICS '
>> *Subject:* RE: [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call -
>> Thursday 07 November 2013- RALOs lack of feedback
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Maureen,
>>
>>
>>
>> The lack of feedback to your comments may also be a result of the IGF
>> meeting, where many RALO Leaders were present. I sent your comments to the
>> RALO Secretariat’s mailists last week and had no reaction. (see below)
>>
>>
>>
>> I would suggest that you bring up this in the RALO Secretariat’s meeting
>> in Buenos Aires (most likely to be this coming Friday). I am contacting
>> RALO leaders via Skype to see if we can get them to attend the next RALO
>> Sec calls this coming Friday.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please accept my Skype request for friendship so we can set up 3 way
>> Skype chats with RALO Leaders so that they come prepared to discuss metrics
>> in Buenos Aires.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Silvia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Silvia Vivanco
>>
>> Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>> Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119
>>
>> Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104
>>
>> Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* metrics.sc-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
>> mailto:metrics.sc-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<metrics.sc-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Maureen Hilyard
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 03, 2013 4:44 AM
>> *To:* ICANN At-Large Staff; 'METRICS '
>> *Subject:* Re: [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call -
>> Thursday 07 November 2013
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> I tried to include a comment on the Metrics workspace but although I
>> couldn’t get the editor to load I was able to create a new page.
>>
>> I wanted to put something forward for discussion and feedback and have
>> used the ALS model which someone very kindly set up on the “ALS Metrics
>> Should do” page.  I also based it on the new ALAC ROPS  Section 9.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like some feedback on whether it is appropriate to propose it to
>> the RALO Secretariat. Despite leaving messages on their workspace and
>> asking for some feedback, I have had nothing. Their last week’s meeting was
>> cancelled.  I’m wondering if perhaps they would prefer something to pick on
>> in order to get a reaction.. and I’m quite happy to propose something that
>> will hopefully at least get them talking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway for those who would like to check out what I’ve been working on.
>> Its on:
>>
>>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Could+do+workspace+-+ALAC+Metrics+-+discussion
>>
>>
>>
>> (just another page to add to the system… I would rather have had a link
>> that started off with https://community.icann.org/AtLarge/METRICS.SC/…
>> so we could all find our Metrics pages more easily).
>>
>>
>>
>> Maureen
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* metrics.sc-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
>> mailto:metrics.sc-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<metrics.sc-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *ICANN At-Large Staff
>> *Sent:* Friday, 1 November 2013 9:49 a.m.
>> *To:* METRICS
>> *Subject:* [Metrics.SC] Meeting invitation/ At-Large Metrics call -
>> Thursday 07 November 2013
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> The next *At-Large Metrics Working Group* call is scheduled on* Thursday
>>  07 November at 1300 UTC for 90 minutes.*
>>
>>
>>
>> For other times:
>>
>> *http://tinyurl.com/l4xldsd <http://tinyurl.com/l4xldsd>*
>>
>>
>>
>> The draft agenda (to be updated) and call details are available at:
>>
>> *https://community.icann.org/x/dxCfAg
>> <https://community.icann.org/x/dxCfAg>*
>>
>>
>>
>> Adobe Connect:
>>
>> http://icann.adobeconnect.com/metrics-wg/
>>
>>
>>
>> Wiki workspace:
>>
>> *https://community.icann.org/x/HJfbAQ
>> <https://community.icann.org/x/HJfbAQ>*
>>
>>
>>
>> Conference ID: 1638
>>
>> http://adigo.com/icann/
>>
>>
>>
>> *Spanish interpretation will NOT be provided.*
>>
>>
>>
>> If you require a dial-out please contact *At-Large staff only* with your
>> preferred number at: staff at atlarge.icann.org.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
>> Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
>>
>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>>
>> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
>>
>>
>>
>> *One World, One Internet*
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> metrics.sc mailing list
>> metrics.sc at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/metrics.sc
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> metrics.sc mailing list
>> metrics.sc at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/metrics.sc
>>
>>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/metrics.sc/attachments/20131105/ad83de85/attachment-0001.html>