[ME ICANN] Topic selection: deadline extended

Thu Mar 4 08:04:47 UTC 2021

Thanks for very helpful comments. Did any of the ME group members
contribute to gtld report in any way?

4 Mar 2021 Per 01:35 tarihinde Manal Ismail via Middle-East <
middle-east at icann.org> şunu yazdı:

> Many thanks Tijani and apologies for not being able to join the call ..
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> I have just listened to the recording and fully agree with Amr, yourself
> and others who supported SubPro as the chosen topic ..
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> Amr covered very well all the details below and eloquently explained the
> controversy of DNS Abuse and complexity of EPDP Phase 2  ..
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> Accordingly, I would go for the SubPro .. It’s modular, well structured
> and members of the Middle East space could easily identify a couple of
> issues to comment on, with the caveat that this may be more on the
> implementation as it’s a bit late for any major changes now ..
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> That said, I think discussions on this mailing list should be continuous
> not only before the meetings .. This would help in keeping everyone
> informed and controversies resolved by the time we intend to submit a
> statement, also considering where we are in the relevant process to make
> sure the statement is timely and influential ..
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> Kind Regards
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> --Manal
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> *From:* Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Zakir
> Syed via Middle-East
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 11:05 PM
> *To:* Tijani BEN JEMAA; middle-east at icann.org; Amr Elsadr
> *Cc:* rolla hassan
> *Subject:* Re: [ME ICANN] Topic selection: deadline extended
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> Dear Tijani, thank you.
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> Hi Amr, this is helpful indeed.
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> Dear All, So, given that Amr has quite eloquently described that New gTLD
> Subsequent Procedures is the topic we should focus on and that it may be
> linked to the regional dynamics more closely compared to the other two
> topics.
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> So yea, If there is no disagreement, we can go with "New gTLD Subsequent
> Procedures" and come up with something along the lines Amr has highlighted.
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> Thanks,
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> Zakir
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> On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 12:53:14 AM GMT+5, Amr Elsadr via Middle-East <
> middle-east at icann.org> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I watched the recording of yesterday’s call, and pretty much agree with
> most of what was expressed by others. Thanks for sharing the link, Tijani.
> Here’s my personal take on these 3 topics:
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> 1. Agree that the topic of DNS Abuse is not the ideal one. In general, I
> believe it might be helpful for the designations commonly used to be
> revised. DNS Abuse itself should be (as others have said) defined narrowly
> in the technical scope of ICANN mandate. “Content Abuse” is a term that
> strikes me as strange. Something more like “illegal content” seems more
> appropriate to me. I’m not sure how content may be abused in the way the
> DNS can be. Content can be abusive, but describing it as illegal seems to
> more accurately describe it.
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> There are more nuances to this, imo. Abusive material or behavior (for
> lack of a better word or description) like malware or phishing (and spam
> associated with both) even strike me as content delivered using the DNS.
> There’s much work that needs to be done on this and I’m not sure we (as a
> community) might be able to address it to the satisfaction of all parties
> in the time we have.
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> 2. The EPDP Phase 2 Final Report and Recommendations is likely the most
> divisive topic we can hope to tackle. In fact, multiple members of the
> Middle East Space have been involved in this effort and we have disagreed
> on issues more often than we have agreed. I find it unlikely that we will
> have a consensus position on the Final Report. That doesn’t mean we
> shouldn’t continue to discuss it among ourselves, but issuing some kind of
> statement might be challenging. I don’t mind engaging in an attempt to do
> so, if the Middle East Space decides to tackle it, but we should probably
> manage our expectations on what we might achieve over the next month if we
> do.
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> Also noteworthy that this topic is just as substantively complex as any
> other we may wish to tackle. The Standardized System for Access and
> Disclosure (SSAD) is the subject of the Phase 2 report. All the
> recommendations coming out of Phase 2 essentially address features of the
> SSAD. So limiting our input on this topic to the SSAD doesn’t mean we only
> need to address a small part of the Report. If we do choose this as a
> topic, we don’t necessarily need to address every aspect of the SSAD. We
> can always choose which ones we wish to comment on, but everything in that
> Report is about the SSAD, and how it is expected to function, how the
> different parties may use it, how it is expected to be financed, etc…
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> 3. New gTLD Subsequent Procedures is the topic I believe we should focus
> on. As Tijani suggested, we don’t need to address the entire 400-page
> report. There are several topics in this Final Report that we can focus on,
> and which may have a direct impact on our region. IDNs is one. Applicant
> Support is another. The Sub Pro PDP Working Group also made recommendations
> on how ICANN should conduct its communication strategy to inform potential
> applicants. This is something I believe might be relevant to our region if
> there are to be successful applications for new gTLDs coming out of it.
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> It is important to note, however, that if we do develop a statement with
> the intent of submitting it as part of the current public comment period
> that we keep in mind that this is an ICANN Board public comment period.
> That means that it would be largely pointless to suggest amendments to the
> recommendations. The Board may not amend or create new recommendations, but
> can always send some back to the GNSO for review, if it chooses to do so.
> What we might want to do is provide guidance on how best to implement the
> recommendations that have been adopted by the GNSO, taking into
> consideration how the implementation method would be of benefit to the MEAC
> region.
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> These are just some thoughts I had in reaction to this week’s call, but am
> happy to discuss further.
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> I hope this helps.
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> Thanks.
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> Amr
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> *From: *Middle-East <middle-east-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Tijani
> BEN JEMAA via Middle-East <middle-east at icann.org>
> *Reply-To: *Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 11:35 PM
> *To: *"middle-east at icann.org" <middle-east at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"rollah at tra.gov.eg" <rollah at tra.gov.eg>
> *Subject: *Re: [ME ICANN] Topic selection: deadline extended
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> Dear all,
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> The ME Space community met (virtually) this afternoon to discuss the best
> topic to be addressed in the ME Space session at ICANN70.
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> After a constructive debate, 3 topics were supported with different degree
> of support:
> ·      DNS Abuse
> ·      New gTLD subsequent Procedure
> ·      EPDP phase 2 final policy recommendations
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> It was proposed to extend the deadline for topic selection to give those
> who couldn't attend the call to give their preference.  Please give your
> preferred topic among the 3 above topics by *Friday 5 March 2021.*
>
> To help you understand the context of the proposed topics, here are
> elements that were raised during the call:
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> ·      *DNS Abuse*
> It’s meant to be *Domain Name System* abuse only out of any content
> consideration which is out of ICANN remit.
> The contracted parties have issued a paper about this topic and we can
> invite one of them to explain their opinion.
> Also, “Internet & Jurisdiction” Policy Network is working on this issue
> trying to give practical ways to address the DNS Abuse. We can also invite
> either the chair of the group “Domain and Jurisdiction” or the Executive
> Director of the “Internet & Jurisdiction” Policy Network as a whole.
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> ·      *New gTLD Subsequent Procedure final report*
> There are several parts of this huge report (hundreds of pages) that can
> be addressed separately. Those who support this topic should identify which
> part shall we address.
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> ·      *EPDP Phase 2 Final Policy Recommendations*
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> The proposal was to give the consensus position of our region about the
> System for Standardized Access/Disclosure to non-public registration
> information ("SSAD") which is today under public comment.
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> Best
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> Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn> a écrit :
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> Dear all,
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> Please find below the link to the today call recording.
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> https://icann.zoom.us/rec/share/lNnzHuG0860f5kBXfcSXIA5PUDPSnDso2HXtdqw3MMgFHY7cxSJulFLQXZR-WrhH._vLTr15nPGjC4Z4C
> Passcode: +#Fy9!PT?4
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> If you were unable to to attend, you can listen to this recording.
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> Best
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> *Tijani BENJEMAA*
> Executive Director
> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
> Telephone: +216 52 385 114
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> *Tijani BENJEMAA*
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