<div dir="ltr">Hi Heather,<br><br>Thanks for this. <br><br>I'd like to ask please, in your review of reports, advisories etc relevant to Controlled Interruptions and Enhanced Controlled Interruptions, did you come across any explanations (preferably not exclusively in technical language) of the privacy and legal risks associated with the honeypot approach? Might this have been highlighted in SAC 062 (although I didn't quite spot any in a quick scan of this), or perhaps in SAC 066 and/or the JAS report? <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br><font color="#000000">Thanks in advance for the assist,<br></font><br><font color="#000000">Justine</font><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 at 05:52, Heather Flanagan <<a href="mailto:hlf@sphericalcowconsulting.com" target="_blank">hlf@sphericalcowconsulting.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:Montserrat">In the chat of yesterday’s call, Ruben wanted to know why ICANN had decided against Enhanced Controlled Interruption in the past. The information I was thinking of is in their Name Collision Framework from July 2014:</span><br>
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<span style="font-family:Montserrat">"</span><span style="font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:16.4px">ICANN is interested in maintaining the reliability, security and stability of the DNS and the Internet. </span><span style="font-size:16.4px"><br></span><span style="font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:16.4px">As such, ICANN is interested in providing a good notification measure for those parties that may be </span><span style="font-size:16.4px"><br></span><span style="font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:16.4px">leaking queries intended for private namespaces to the public DNS. However, ICANN is also aware of </span><span style="font-size:16.4px"><br></span><span style="font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:16.4px">the privacy and legal risks associated with the honeypot approach described in SAC 062 and 066 and </span><span style="font-size:16.4px"><br></span><span style="font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:16.4px">the JAS report. ICANN has decided on balancing the good notification features  offered by  using  the </span><span style="font-size:16.4px"><br></span><span style="font-family:Georgia,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:16.4px">loopback address option with its superior privacy protection vs. the use of a honeypot. "</span><span style="font-size:16.4px"><br></span><span style="font-size:16.4px"><br></span><a style="font-family:Montserrat" href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/name-collision-framework-30jul14-en.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/name-collision-framework-30jul14-en.pdf</a><br>
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<span style="font-family:Montserrat">I think the text will need to be clear in our recommendations why the discussion group thinks this decision by ICANN must be revisted by the Board.</span><br></div>
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