[Neobrahmigp] [Ext] Malayalam additional cross script variant code points

Fri Aug 3 12:18:41 UTC 2018

Hi Pitinan,

I have made some more changes to the proposal.

Please see the attachment.

*Veena Solomon*

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On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 4:06 AM, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <
pitinan.koo at icann.org> wrote:

> Dear Veena,
>
> Thank you for the files. I have updated the xml accordingly. I have also
> updated some the text in section 6 in-script variant set.
> Please find attached for your review and finalization.
>
> List of attachments:
> 1. Malayalam LGR proposal v1.3 dated 2018-08-03 (Malayalam_LGR_20180803-pk.
> doc)
> 2. XML (Proposal-LGR-Malayalam-20180803.xml)
> 3. HTML (Proposal-Lgr-Malayalam-20180803.htm)
> 4. Test file (malayalam-test-labels-20180803.txt)
> 5. Test result (malayalam-test-labels-20180803-result.txt)
>
> Kindly review and let us know any feedback.
> Regards,
> Pitinan
>
>
>
>
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> On Aug 3, 2018, at 04:53, veena solomon <veena.ycet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please see the attached proposal and test labels file.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> *Veena Solomon*
>
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> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:10 AM, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <
> pitinan.koo at icann.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Veena,
>>
>> Thank you for your email. Could you please also share the updated file.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pitinan
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2018, at 02:37, veena solomon <veena.ycet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have checked again and found that  ന്റ =  U+0D28 *U+0D4D* U+0D31  rendering
>> as
>> <image.png>instead of
>> <image.png> is just a font issue with Microsoft fonts alone. It is the
>> most accepted way to represent *nta. *
>>
>> Hence the
>> <image.png>causing  0D7B + *U+0D4D*  Halant may be disallowed. I have
>> updated the document with the same.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Veena Solomon*
>>
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>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:40 PM, veena solomon <veena.ycet at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> എന്റെ =  U+0D0E U+0D28 *U+0D4D* U+0D31 U+0D46
>>> എൻ്റെ  = U+0D0E U+0D7B *U+0D4D U*+0D31 U+0D46  (Here we use chillu +
>>> virama and it is rendered incorrectly as
>>> <image.png>in some fonts and browsers.
>>>
>>> എന്‍റെ = U+0D0E U+0D28 *U+0D4D *U+200D U+0D31 U+0D46 (This is how it
>>> has been written historically, before the introduction of atomic chillu and
>>> it uses zero width joiner). This sequence is rendered correctly because of
>>> font support.
>>>
>>> Hence, if we block  U+0D7B *U+0D4D *improper representation is favored
>>> or else zwj has to be included.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Veena Solomon*
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <
>>> pitinan.koo at icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Veena,
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached the updated Malayalam LGR Proposal as per our
>>>> discussion. It is version 1.2 dated 2018-09-02.
>>>>
>>>> List of attachment:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Malayalam LGR proposal (Malayalam_LGR_20180802.docx)
>>>> 2. Response to IP feedback (IP-Response-Malayalam-LGR-201
>>>> 80511-IP-PK.docx)
>>>>
>>>> Main modifications are:
>>>> 1. Add two sets of Malayalam-Myanmar cross-script variant.
>>>> 2. Add NBGP cross script variant analysis principle as Appendix D.
>>>> 3. Add singleton variant text in Malayalam-Oriya cross-script variant
>>>> section.
>>>> 4. Revise references and their citations.
>>>> 5. Add confusable cases with Myanmar,  and Latin for S case in appendix
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>> Remaining IP feedback item for your action:
>>>> 1. Add explanation about how does "CHILLU" relate to "CHILLAKSHARAM"
>>>> and "SAMVRUTHOKARAM”?
>>>> 2. Decide if the LGR should disallow 0D7B + Halant due to rendering
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> Kindly review and finalize. Once it is finalized, please share back to
>>>> me for the XML updates.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pitinan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 16:17, veena solomon <veena.ycet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot, Pitinan.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 1:41 PM Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <
>>>> pitinan.koo at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Veena,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the discussion regards to the candidate cross-script
>>>>> variant for Malayalam.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find the summary of our discussion as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. 0D31 റ MALAYALAM LETTER RRA  and 1002 ဂ MYANMAR LETTER GA,  you
>>>>>    suggested to add these as cross-script variant code points because Myanmar
>>>>>    script is also derived from the Brahmi script. This is in compliant with
>>>>>    the NBGP cross script variant analysis principle.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. 0D1F ട MALAYALAM LETTER TTA is similar to 0073 s LATIN SMALL
>>>>>    LETTER S and 0455 ѕ CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DZE, however this is out of scope
>>>>>    of NBGP cross script variant analysis principle. They will be listed in the
>>>>>    Appendix.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. 0D28 ന MALAYALAM LETTER NA and 1000 က MYANMAR LETTER KA can be
>>>>>    listed as confusable in the appendix.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. I’ll update the document according to our discussion
>>>>>    conclusion, and share with you for your finalization.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please feel free to add any further details, based on our conversation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pitinan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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