[New gTLD RG] Fwd: Demand Media and other issues
carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Thu Aug 2 21:37:36 UTC 2012
Some clarification on this reference to " ICANN whois committee".
What do we know here?
Carlton A Samuels
*Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>wrote:
> FYI - follow-up on the letter about Demand Media which I am copied into,
> therefore in confidence to this review group, until published elsewhere.
> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Demand Media and other issues Date:
> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:15:13 -0400 From: HELP.org <email at help.org><email at help.org> To:
> jstoler at mccarter.com CC: steve.crocker at icann.org, akram.atallah at icann.org,
> cherine.chalaby at icann.org, john.jeffrey at icann.org, heather.dryden at ic.gc.ca,
> kurt.pritz at icann.org, ssene at ntia.doc.gov, ocl at gih.com
> Dear Mr. Stoller:
> I read your letter concerning Demand Media and it sound like a similar
> situation to DomainTools.com. Further, it appears both entities utilize
> the same law firm in Seattle Newman DuWors.
> I was the defendant in a lawsuit filed by DomainTools of Newman DuWors.
> However, the suit was dismissed with prejudice but there is still a pending
> motion for sanctions against Domain Tools (Dkt. 48 of 2:12-cv-00498-MJP
> Domain Tools v. Consumer.net, Russ Smith). For instance, there were 5
> different claims detected of who the actual parent company is.
> As you may know Domain Tools generally did not get permission to package
> and resell the historical whois data and the people involved with running
> the company are defendants in a number of different UDRP's and
> cybersquatting lawsuits. Further, an employee of Domain Tools actually
> sits of the ICANN whois committee with members of INTA. Some information
> is at :
> I am not sure how much of a connection is beyond using the same law firm
> but the federal court records indicate there may be a pattern in legal
> strategies of the various entities. Certainly the people involved
> sometimes attend the same conferences together in addition to utilizing the
> same counsel.
> I also do not like Mr. Stahura because he never resolved the issue with
> the Domain Registry of America sending misleading domain renewal notices to
> customers of a domain registrar I owned at the time. The data used for the
> mailing was taken from the whois databases without permission and I still
> get DROA notices for my domains to this day.
> Russ Smith
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> Newgtldrg at icann.org
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