[Npoc-discuss] Fwd: [council] Statement on Red Cross names - methodology and implementation - from Mason Cole

Wed Nov 1 14:29:05 UTC 2017

Thank you Carlos for forwarding this.

Accepting that there will be occasions when the Red Cross wants to add 
names to the reserved list we need a process that does not simply 
involve GAC informing the Board.

In addition to the reasons given by Mason /"1) It impacts our 
contracts.  2) It puts the GAC in a position to instruct staff directly 
with regard to policy, with no GNSO involvement.  3) There’s little 
incentive for the GAC to withhold more from its wish list in such a 
scenario"/, a formal ICANN process involving passing requests through 
the GNSO is more consistent with ICANN's governance and policy 
implementation processes.

Also, this process does not address the possibility of margin cases 
where a registration is outside the reserve list, but is used for fraud 
or abuse. I presume that the Red Cross will maintain a due diligence 
watching posture on margin case domain names where it needs to monitor 
subsequent use and initiate action when necessary.

Sam L (npoc/ncsg)

On 11/1/2017 9:19 AM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez wrote:
> Regards
>
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> From: "Mary Wong" <mary.wong at icann.org <mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>>
> Date: Nov 1, 2017 3:43 PM
> Subject: [council] Statement on Red Cross names - methodology and 
> implementation - from Mason Cole
> To: "council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>" 
> <council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
> Cc:
>
> Dear Councilors,
>
> Please find below the full text of Mason’s statement that he read at 
> the Open Mic earlier in this meeting.
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Mary
>
> *From: *Mason Cole <mason at donuts.email>
> *Date: *Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 15:18
> *To: *Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org <mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Statement
>
> As a member of the IGO/INGO working group, I’d like to raise two concerns.
>
> The first regards the methodology around development of the list of 
> Red Cross names that are to be reserved.  The proposal is that “exact 
> match” names of the organizations be reserved, as well as what are 
> known as “common names.”  For example — the American Red Cross Society 
> as an exact name, and the American Red Cross or The Red Cross as 
> common names.  And as you know, each name is to be reserved in 
> multiple configurations of language and IDN.
>
> There is a concern that there will be claims to what are termed common 
> names far beyond what was initially speculated.  There’s no criteria 
> or standard for identifying a common name, so one presumably relies on 
> the word of each provider.  However, that opens the door to 
> potentially exponential multiplication of the name list that may not 
> be warranted in all cases.  Or it could lead an organization to claim 
> that an acronym constitutes a common name.  The GNSO obviously 
> supports the effort around formal names, as they’re unquestionable 
> identifiers, but there should be concern about opening the process to 
> numerous and potentially less unquestionably linked common names or 
> acronyms.
>
> The second concern is the methodology for adding the names of new 
> societies to the reserved list.  The current proposal is that once a 
> Red Cross organization is chartered, the GAC can make a request 
> directly to ICANN staff for inclusion of that name on the list.  Staff 
> presumably would then notify GDD, who would instruct contracted 
> parties to accommodate the new names.  This is alarming on several 
> fronts.  1) It impacts our contracts.  2) It puts the GAC in a 
> position to instruct staff directly with regard to policy, with no 
> GNSO involvement.  3) There’s little incentive for the GAC to withhold 
> more from its wish list in such a scenario.  It would be much more 
> preferable for the GNSO to be part of the process on policy that 
> eventually impacts our contracts.
>
> I believe the GAC, in its communique, reaffirm its Durban advice that 
> Red Cross and IGO acronyms should be reserved permanently.  So I urge 
> the council to carefully consider these matters in the context of the 
> Red Cross and IGO names.
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