<div dir="auto">Please a question for Judith.<div dir="auto">What could be an operational concern for an individualisé ? I just need arguments to be convince.</div><div dir="auto">Warm regards.</div><div dir="auto">Olévié</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le ven. 13 sept. 2019 à 14:12, Juan Manuel Rojas via Npoc-discuss <<a href="mailto:npoc-discuss@icann.org">npoc-discuss@icann.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_4508797303779514825ydpaa4bfda8yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><div dir="ltr">Hey Raoul! <br>Nice work on the charter... good catch! I think we can move forward! <br><br>According Judith's point, We discussed that point some time ago when we were working on that issue and I remember the new charter proposal includes a sentence where says (more or less) "another cases will be reviewed case by case", so I think that your example could be among those cases. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Best,</div><div><br></div><div class="m_4508797303779514825ydpaa4bfda8signature"><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div><div id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28423"><span style="font-size:small">JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.<br style="color:rgb(69,69,69)"><span id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_29214" style="color:rgb(69,69,69)">Presidente - </span><span id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28443" style="color:rgb(69,69,69)">AGEIA DENSI Colombia</span></span></div><div id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28423" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small">Membership Committee Chair. </span><span style="font-size:small">Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN</span></div><div id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28423" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small">Cluster Orinoco TIC member</span></div><div id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28423" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small">Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes</span></div><div id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28423" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small"><br></span></div><div id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28423" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small">Cel. +57 3017435600<br>Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas" id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28445" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:blue;outline:none;background:transparent" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">@JmanuRojas</a><br id="m_4508797303779514825ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_29244" style="color:rgb(69,69,69)"></span></div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif"><br><br><br><br></div> </div></div></div>
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El viernes, 13 de septiembre de 2019 08:00:38 a. m. GMT-5, Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>> escribió:
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<div><div id="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017"><div>Hi<div>I disagree. A person may wish to be active in npoc because they believe in their mission, goals and objectives but do not believe in ncuc, so you are in effect saying no we do not want you? Why? What is the harm? The goal is to have active reps who believe and advocate and are active on the npoc mission so why exclude people. There are many reasons why you may want to join as an individual, ranging from you are in the govt, your org is not interested in applying or the org will not appoint you, you do not have an org whom you belong to who meets your own values</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Judith <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr" id="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone<div><a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">Judith@jhellerstein.com</a></div><div>Skype ID:Judithhellerstein </div></div><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017yqt3913049742" id="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017yqt34340"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">On Sep 13, 2019, at 7:45 AM, Poncelet Ileleji <<a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:pileleji@ymca.gm" target="_blank">pileleji@ymca.gm</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Remmy,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Individual members is a no no no BIG NO, we solely NGO focused it won't change. You want to be individual go NCUC. So our mission is definitely correct and should stay as it is. We done with the charter for me, Roaul did a great work on this, so why take us back on something that is done and dusted Remmy, time to move on.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Please Raoul lets move on. kudos to your work.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thank you<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Poncelet<br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 11:07, Remmy Nweke <<a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Hi Raoul<div>Nice to have this mission added.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>However, for a start, its solely about NGOs and since we have consideration for individual members I think such should reflect in the mission statement.</div><div>Regards for now</div><div>Remmy</div><div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 9:24 AM Raoul Plommer <<a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com" target="_blank">plommer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>For some explicable reason, the 1.2., i.e. our mission was omitted from the draft. Here it is below. I've also added it to the working document of the charter.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>"1.2 NPOC’s mission is to represent Not-for-Profit Organizations by addressing their operational concerns with the generic Top-level Domains (gTLDs). Operational Concerns are defined as issues arising from the use of the gTLDs by the not-for-profit organizations to achieve their own mission. Those can include but are not limited to Domain Name Fraud, Intellectual Property Abuse, Privacy, Security, Stability, and Resiliency, as well as transparent registration and continued ownership of domain names."</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I went through the suggestions and there was nothing major, as far as I could see. I resolved the comments and if you're happy with the above mission statement as well, we can send the charter to its next phase of the review process. Enjoy your weekend!<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>-Raoul<br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:45, Olivier Kouami <<a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:olivierkouami@gmail.com" target="_blank">olivierkouami@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Hello dearest.all.</div><div>Thanks you for the update Raoul.</div><div>I'll pass.through <a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://ans.seen.the.work" target="_blank">ans.seen.the.work</a> done.since about 5 Yeats now.</div><div>You're welcome.</div><div>Regards.</div><div>Olévié</div><div><br clear="none"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le ven. 30 août 2019 à 16:52, Remmy Nweke <<a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Welcome to our team the journey so far on this improved charter.</div><br clear="none"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote"><div class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 8:54 AM Raoul Plommer <<a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com" target="_blank">plommer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear members of NPOC,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>We have finished the work on our charter in July but I wanted to have one thorough look before sending it to you for accepting it. Sorry for taking so long in finally getting round to doing it.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Here is the working version and with this link you can comment on it. After we've gone through all the comments of the members, we'll pass it to ICANN law for a review. <a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HRcUOxtoMUzJnfXhXm-wpJd3vDmVRG9uFTRyojOAbxo/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HRcUOxtoMUzJnfXhXm-wpJd3vDmVRG9uFTRyojOAbxo/edit?usp=sharing</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div></div><div>The deadline for giving comments is 13th of September, which also happens to be Friday. :)</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>At the end of the charter, you can also find a link to the annex, but it's unfinished at the moment, and we still need to work on it before passing it for you to review.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>-Raoul<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div id="m_4508797303779514825yiv4288103017gmail-m_459472663148616644m_-5165405894511317872gmail-m_7452271082014285871m_5832198780009622115m_5640657757994459222DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br clear="none"> <table style="border-top:1px solid rgb(211,212,222)"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="width:55px;padding-top:18px"><a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif" alt="" style="width:46px;min-height:29px" width="46" height="29"></a></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="width:470px;padding-top:17px;color:rgb(65,66,78);font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Ei viruksia. <a rel="nofollow noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" style="color:rgb(68,83,234)" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a> </td></tr></tbody></table>
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