<div dir="auto">Greetings everyone from Lomé Togo.<div dir="auto">+1 @all, first.<br><div dir="auto">I'm following up this discussion and found it really interesting.</div><div dir="auto">It's true that ICANN's interest in this IG ecosystem is at the logical layer with a sound impact on socio-economical layer. With the notice that most of the infrastructure layer, wich is the basical layer of the IG ecosystem, belong to multinationales privates companies (90% of the all backbone).</div><div dir="auto">Finally, it's a struggle between the consumers and producers.</div><div dir="auto">Anyway, my concern is the fact the NPOC is an invention of the ICANN org, like so, is it really possible to add another tasks, which are not among the goals of the ICANN, to NPOC's charter ?</div><div dir="auto">Please, could Sam cited an exemple of an ICANN's SG or AC or C which are already behaving like that ? </div><div dir="auto">It's my question.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you, in adavance, for your clarifications.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Warm regards.</div><div dir="auto">Olévié</div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Le mer. 30 oct. 2019 à 14:46, Poncelet Ileleji <<a href="mailto:pileleji@ymca.gm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">pileleji@ymca.gm</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Spot on Sam,<div><br></div><div>Way to go 👍🏿</div><div><br></div><div>Poncelet <br><br>On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:lanfran@yorku.ca" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lanfran@yorku.ca</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><div><font size="2">Poncelet,</font></div><div><br></div><div><font size="2">Thank you for your comments. I agree that the looming crisis around Internet Infrastructure and Sea Level Rise is not central to ICANN's mandate, and do not see it as occupying a central position on the ICANN agenda. But, as multiple stakeholder constituencies we (including ICANN and ICANN org) have to press for greater attention elsewhere, where stakeholder awareness and engagement are raised with regard to such issues.<br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">The IGF is one of those venues and I support NPOC developing a strategy (say as NPOC org, with an independent budget and above and beyond its ICANN constituency existence) to take on such tasks. <br></font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">I remind us that this is more or less how the other ICANN constituencies operate outside ICANN, targeting their efforts at areas that impact their core interests. Our interests are two fold, the impact of the Internet ecosystem on the NGO, not-for-profit, community constituency, and on "the public good". Within NPOC we focus on the DNS, but our concerns are wider. This is a good opportunity to mature NPOC as a concerned constituency within the challenges facing the wider Internet ecosystem.</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2"><<b><i>Food for though</i></b>></font><br></div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"></font></font></font></font><div><br></div><div>Sam L.<br></div><blockquote style="border-left:solid 2px #000000;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px">---- Original Message ----<br><b>From</b>: Poncelet Ileleji <<a href="mailto:pileleji@ymca.gm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">pileleji@ymca.gm</a>><br><b>To</b>: "Sam Lanfranco" <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sam@lanfranco.net</a>><br><b>Cc</b>: "NPOC Discuss" <<a href="mailto:npoc-discuss@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">npoc-discuss@icann.org</a>><br><b>Sent</b>: Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 5:32 AM<br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [Npoc-discuss] Internet Infrastructure and Sea Level Rise: Food/Question for Thought<br><br>Hello Sam,<div><br></div><div>I think it’s more of an issue within the overall internet governance domain so within Berlin discuss we can do it. As under the realm of ICANN we won’t get far with the discuss as it centers on infrastructure not DNS.</div><div><br></div><div>Our chair @Joan can see how we can promote it within the global IGF as per NPOC and within our regional gatherings.</div><div><br></div><div>Just my little thoughts </div><div><br></div><div>Poncelet </div><div><br>On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:sam@lanfranco.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sam@lanfranco.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-CA">NPOC
colleagues, <br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-CA">I am raising
this within the NPOC discussion group because I want to get a
sense of whether
this is an issue that should be somewhere on the ICANN agenda.
At a minimum ICANN
and its communities are constituent stakeholders in this
issue.Most analysis sees serious problems within 15 years. <br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-CA">Much of the
Internet’s physical infrastructure is situated in locations
close to coastal
shorelines, connected to the half-million miles of undersea
cables. New estimates of sea level rise driven by climate change
have
tripled earlier estimates of global vulnerability to sea-level
rise and coastal
flooding. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12808-z" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext"><span> </span>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12808-z</span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-CA">The impact
of this on human habitation, and human migration, will be
catastrophic. Estimates
are that by mid-century up to 340 million people will live on
land below
projected annual flood levels. Current estimates put one billion
people now occupying
land less than 10 meters above current high tide lines,
including 250 million
living below 1 meter above current high tide lines. These
populations will
become a migration tsunami. But that is not the issue I want to
raise here.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b><span lang="EN-CA">The impact
of
sea level rise on the infrastructure of the Internet ecosystem
will be equally
catastrophic and is approaching fast.</span></b><span lang="EN-CA"> Rather than belaboring the point
that some action is necessary here, I will just share a short
bibliography on
the subject. <b>Do we need a discussion?</b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-CA">Sam Lanfranco<b><br>
</b> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-CA">The Internet
May Be Underwater in 15 Years: <u><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/07/news-internet-underwater-sea-level-rise/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/07/news-internet-underwater-sea-level-rise/</a></u></span><u><span></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span>Buried
Internet infrastructure at
risk as sea levels rise: <a href="https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180716141627.htm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/07/180716141627.htm</span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span>Rising Seas
Could Cause Problems for
Internet Infrastructure <a href="https://biodiversityfunders.org/rising-seas-could-cause-problems-for-internet-infrastructure/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">https://biodiversityfunders.org/rising-seas-could-cause-problems-for-internet-infrastructure/</span></a><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span>Sea Level
Rise to Jeopardize U.S.
Internet Infrastructure In 15 Years <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/federicoguerrini/2018/08/11/sea-level-rise-to-jeopardise-u-s-internet-infrastructure-in-15-years-study-says/%231fdac65a7cb0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">https://www.forbes.com/sites/federicoguerrini/2018/08/11/sea-level-rise-to-jeopardise-u-s-internet-infrastructure-in-15-years-study-says/#1fdac65a7cb0</span></a></span></p>
<p><span>Internet
infrastructure will be
inundated as sea levels rise: </span><u><span><a href="https://www.networkworld.com/article/3290250/internet-infrastructure-will-be-inundated-as-sea-levels-rise-says-report.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.networkworld.com/article/3290250/internet-infrastructure-will-be-inundated-as-sea-levels-rise-says-report.html</a><br>
</span></u></p>
<p><span>Key
Internet Connections and Locations are at Risk from Rising
Seas: <a href="https://www.americanscientist.org/article/key-internet-connections-and-locations-are-at-risk-from-rising-seas" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span>https://www.americanscientist.org/article/key-internet-connections-and-locations-are-at-risk-from-rising-seas</span></a></span></p>
<p><span>The
internet is at risk from rising sea levels | World Economic
Forum: <a href="https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/07/rising-sea-levels-are-coming-for-the-internet" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span>https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/07/rising-sea-levels-are-coming-for-the-internet</span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span>Rising
sea levels are going to mess with the internet, sooner than you
think: <a href="https://www.popsci.com/sea-level-rise-internet-infrastructure/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">https://www.popsci.com/sea-level-rise-internet-infrastructure/</span></a></span></p>
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</blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS<br>Coordinator<br>The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio<br>MDI Road Kanifing South<br>P. O. Box 421 Banjul<br>The Gambia, West Africa<br>Tel: (220) 4370240<br>Fax:(220) 4390793<br>Cell:(220) 9912508<br>Skype: pons_utd<br><i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><a href="http://www.ymca.gm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ymca.gm</a><br><a href="http://jokkolabs.net/en/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://jokkolabs.net/en/</a><br></span></i></div><div><i><a href="https://www.netfreedompioneers.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.netfreedompioneers.org/</a> <br></i></div><div><i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><a href="http://www.waigf.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.waigf.org</a><br><a href="http://www.itag.gm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www,insistglobal.com</a><br><a href="http://www.npoc.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.npoc.org</a><br></span></i><cite><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></span><b><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></span></b><br></cite><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></blockquote></font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS<br>Coordinator<br>The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio<br>MDI Road Kanifing South<br>P. O. Box 421 Banjul<br>The Gambia, West Africa<br>Tel: (220) 4370240<br>Fax:(220) 4390793<br>Cell:(220) 9912508<br>Skype: pons_utd<br><i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><a href="http://www.ymca.gm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.ymca.gm</a><br><a href="http://jokkolabs.net/en/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://jokkolabs.net/en/</a><br></span></i></div><div><i><a href="https://www.netfreedompioneers.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.netfreedompioneers.org/</a> <br></i></div><div><i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><a href="http://www.waigf.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.waigf.org</a><br><a href="http://www.itag.gm" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www,insistglobal.com</a><br><a href="http://www.npoc.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.npoc.org</a><br></span></i><cite><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></span><b><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></span></b><br></cite><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>
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