[registrars] Third Draft Standard form of authorisation for use by losing registrars after a transfer is initiated

Wed Oct 8 22:10:05 UTC 2003

Rick, I had suggested the same thing and agree with you 100%. 

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Alice's Registry Help Desk [mailto:support at alices-registry.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:02 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck; 'Donny Simonton'; 'Tim Ruiz'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Tina
Dam'; ross at tucows.com; 'Elana Broitman'; Jeff.Neuman at NeuLevel.biz;
paul at internetters.co.uk; roessler at does-not-exist.org;
grant.forsyth at team.telstraclear.co.nz; sricciardi at fibertel.com.ar;
'Karen Lentz'; halloran at icann.org; 'Ellen Sondheim'
Cc: registrars at dnso.org
Subject: Re: [registrars] Third Draft Standard form of authorisation for
use by losing registrars after a transfer is initiated

I'll state my desire again:
   o no template
   o a mininmum set of requirements of what needs to be in the notice.

-rick 

On Wednesday 08 October 2003 2:45 pm, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> What about modifying the template to allow for multiple domains that
could
> be listed along with the name of the losing registrar?
>
> Chuck Gomes
> VeriSign Com Net Registry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donny Simonton [mailto:donny at intercosmos.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:00 PM
> > To: 'Tim Ruiz'; 'Rick Wesson'; 'Gomes, Chuck'; 'Bruce
> > Tonkin'; 'Tina Dam'; ross at tucows.com; 'Elana Broitman';
> > Jeff.Neuman at NeuLevel.biz; paul at internetters.co.uk;
> > roessler at does-not-exist.org;
> > grant.forsyth at team.telstraclear.co.nz;
> > sricciardi at fibertel.com.ar; 'Karen Lentz';
> > halloran at icann.org; 'Ellen Sondheim'
> > Cc: registrars at dnso.org
> > Subject: RE: [registrars] Third Draft Standard form of
> > authorisation for use by losing registrars after a transfer
> > is initiated
> >
> >
> > I agree with Tim.  If you must send one email per domain,
> > this would definitely not improve the system.
> >
> > Donny
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-
> > > registrars at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:54 PM
> > > To: 'Rick Wesson'; 'Gomes, Chuck'; 'Bruce Tonkin'; 'Tina Dam';
> > > ross at tucows.com; 'Elana Broitman'; Jeff.Neuman at NeuLevel.biz;
> > > paul at internetters.co.uk; roessler at does-not-exist.org;
> > > grant.forsyth at team.telstraclear.co.nz; sricciardi at fibertel.com.ar;
> > > 'Karen Lentz'; halloran at icann.org; 'Ellen Sondheim'
> > > Cc: registrars at dnso.org
> > > Subject: RE: [registrars] Third Draft Standard form of
> >
> > authorisation
> >
> > > for use by losing registrars after a transfer is initiated
> > >
> > > We currently allow a customer to request up to 500 transfers in a
> > > single order. They can mix TLDs and they are often from any
> >
> > number of
> >
> > > registrars. We then group the confirmation emails accordingly.
> > >
> > > What we would hate to have to revert to is single emails
> >
> > per domain,
> >
> > > or per losing registrar, etc. All that does is inconvenience the
> > > registrant and hamper portability, not improve it.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
> > > [mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Rick Wesson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:34 PM
> > > To: Gomes, Chuck; Bruce Tonkin; Tina Dam; ross at tucows.com; Elana
> > > Broitman; Jeff.Neuman at NeuLevel.biz; paul at internetters.co.uk;
> > > roessler at does-not-exist.org;
grant.forsyth at team.telstraclear.co.nz;
> > > sricciardi at fibertel.com.ar; Karen Lentz; halloran at icann.org; Ellen
> > > Sondheim
> > > Cc: registrars at dnso.org
> > > Subject: Re: [registrars] Third Draft Standard form of
> >
> > authorisation
> >
> > > for use by losing registrars after a transfer is initiated
> > >
> > >
> > > Chuck,
> > >
> > > I've been unclear.
> > >
> > >    Account: A
> > >        Domain 1:  Gaining Registrar X
> > >        Domain 2: Gaining Registrar Y
> > >
> > > I would like to send one note that is composed of all relivant
> > > information without being required to dump many simular messages
to
> > > the same registrant.
> > >
> > > I cannot provide you an as example that you requested, because one
> > > does not exits.
> > >
> > > best,
> > >
> > > -rick
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 08 October 2003 12:35 pm, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Please provide me an example of a domain name where there
> >
> > is not a
> >
> > > > 1-1 mapping between a registrant and a registrar, losing
> >
> > or gaining,
> >
> > > within the
> > >
> > > > transfer process.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck Gomes
> > > > VeriSign Com Net Registry
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Alice's Registry Help Desk
> > >
> > > [mailto:support at alices-registry.com]
> > >
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:47 AM
> > > > > To: Bruce Tonkin; Tina Dam; Gomes, Chuck;
> >
> > ross at tucows.com; Elana
> >
> > > > > Broitman; Jeff.Neuman at NeuLevel.biz; paul at internetters.co.uk;
> > > > > roessler at does-not-exist.org;
> > > > > grant.forsyth at team.telstraclear.co.nz;
> > > > > sricciardi at fibertel.com.ar; Karen Lentz;
> >
> > halloran at icann.org; Ellen
> >
> > > > > Sondheim
> > > > > Cc: registrars at dnso.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [registrars] Third Draft Standard form of
> > > > > authorisation for use by losing registrars after a transfer is
> > > > > initiated
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce,
> > > > >
> > > > > your note makes many assumptions one of which is that
> >
> > there is a
> >
> > > > > one to one maping between registrant and domain and a
> >
> > one to one
> >
> > > > > relationship to the domain and the gaining registrar.
> > > > >
> > > > > If an account is moving their domains there will be
> >
> > many domains
> >
> > > > > related to the account which might have several registrants
and
> > > > > evern more domains.
> > > > >
> > > > > I prefer a more flexable definition insted of a
> >
> > termplate. Simply
> >
> > > > > define all the elements that are requireed in the note
> >
> > insted of a
> >
> > > > > template that must be
> > > > > followed.
> > > > >
> > > > > An example requirement would simply list all the
> >
> > elemenst you have
> >
> > > > > within angle brackets <>
> > > > >
> > > > > -rick
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 07 October 2003 2:21 am, Bruce Tonkin wrote:
> > > > > > Hello All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Below is an updated version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The changes include:
> > > > > > - simplified message by removing details of the gaining
> > > > > > registrar (lowers the burden on the losing registrar
> >
> > to collect
> >
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > information)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Further comments welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Bruce
> >
> >
**********************************************************************
> >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > > ******************
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An English version of this message is contained below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <Insert translation of English version in preferred
> >
> > language of
> >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > > registrant if known>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ENGLISH VERSION
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DOMAIN NAME TRANSFER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Attention: <insert Registrant or Administrative Contact of
> > > > >
> > > > > Record as
> > > > >
> > > > > > listed in the WHOIS>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Re: Transfer of <insert domain name>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <insert name of losing registrar and/or name of reseller>
> > > > > > received notification on <insert date of
> >
> > notification> that you
> >
> > > > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > requested
> > > > >
> > > > > > a transfer to another domain name registrar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you have authorised this transfer, you do not need
> >
> > to respond
> >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > > > this message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you wish to cancel the transfer, please contact us
<insert
> > > > > > contact details> within <insert timeframe> days, or
> >
> > the transfer
> >
> > > > > > will proceed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [optional] or please go to our website within <insert
> > > > >
> > > > > timeframe> days,
> > > > >
> > > > > > <insert URL of confirmation webpage> to confirm or deny the
> > > > >
> > > > > transfer.
> > > > >
> > > > > > [Note: website to contain text as above, with the option to
> > > > >
> > > > > confirm or
> > > > >
> > > > > > deny the transfer.  This option may be presented first at
> > > > >
> > > > > the choice of
> > > > >
> > > > > > the losing registrar]