[registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains February 1st 200 4:-(
Jean-Michel
jmbecar at gmo.jp
Wed Jan 14 10:22:24 UTC 2004
Dear all,
Please find attach the letter we are sending to the ICANN board while we
are trying to set up a meeting with PIR. But as Michael said in his
previous email let's wait and see what will happen in the coming days
and I guess something good will.
I don't see how PIR can delete those names without any regret :-)
Regards,
Jean-Michel
Nikolaj Nyholm wrote:
>I fully support Jean-Michel's views. While we cannot speculate why Netsol
>choses to stop supporting IDNs, VGRS confirmed yesterday that Netsol's
>decision in no way impacts their support for IDN in .COM/.NET.
>
>I further agree that PIR's decision is putting the industry in an extremely
>bad light, and I suggest we in unison lobby both ICANN, PIR and the ISOC
>board.
>Could you kindly forward to the list the letter sent to PIR on behalf of
>Japanese registrars?
>
>/n
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jean-Michel [mailto:jmbecar at gmo.jp]
>>Sent: 14. januar 2004 07:13
>>To: Jean-Michel
>>Cc: tbarrett at encirca.com; 'Robert F. Connelly'; 'Registrars
>>Constituency'
>>Subject: Re: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains
>>February 1st 2004:-(
>>
>>
>>I would like to clarify the annoucement of Network Solution.
>>Network Solution stops reselling IDN doesn't mean that Verisign will
>>stop to manage IDN names. At least as far as we know.
>>Looks like NSI is quiet annoying with the customers support
>>and all the
>>burden gives to them like the language barrier and the
>>difficulty of the
>>IDN market.
>>
>>I don't really any good reason for Verisign to stop as the
>>IDN domains
>>represents a large amount of domains for them. and I don't either
>>understand the NSI solution except the one I just gave above.
>>Now we finally have all the standards and the technology to make them
>>alive and for our japanese customers it's a very good news they are
>>really looking forward to it.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Jean-Michel
>>
>>Jean-Michel wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I don't think Verisign will ever cancel the IDN domains in .comm and
>>>.net.
>>>They successfully migrated them from RACE to punycode. So for that
>>>reason I would like to see PIR doing the same , so we stay
>>>
>>>
>>consistent
>>
>>
>>>with our customers and the domain industry image has a lot to loose
>>>with this PIR decision.
>>>
>>>Yesterday, I sent an official letter to Paul Twomey cc to PIR asking
>>>them to hold off the deletion and to discuss this issue.
>>>
>>>
>>That letter
>>
>>
>>>was the result of a meeting here in Tokyo of ALL registrars
>>>
>>>
>>concerned
>>
>>
>>>with that decision and also some big resellers. And we are
>>>
>>>
>>all agree
>>
>>
>>>that will be very bad for our industry and market.
>>>So I would like to see like Bob already tried to get from
>>>
>>>
>>this list
>>
>>
>>>more reaction and I was hoping the RC would put the
>>>
>>>
>>pressure on PIR in
>>
>>
>>>order to migrate those legacy domains to the new standards,
>>>
>>>
>>because it
>>
>>
>>>feasible Verisign did it :-)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Jean-Michel
>>>
>>>tbarrett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bob,
>>>>
>>>>This is worth discussing, since we are receiving inquiries about
>>>>in-coming transfers of com/net IDN domains.
>>>>
>>>>Is there any reason a registrant should transfer their existing
>>>>domains to another registrar or will they end up being
>>>>
>>>>
>>cancelled by
>>
>>
>>>>Verisign-GRS in a few months anyway?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> *From:* owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of
>>>>
>>>>
>>*Robert F.
>>
>>
>>>> Connelly
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2004 8:45 PM
>>>> *To:* Registrars Constituency
>>>> *Cc:* David W. Maher; David W. Maher; Bruce Beckwith
>>>> *Subject:* [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>domains February
>>
>>
>>>> 1st 2004:-(
>>>> *Importance:* High
>>>>
>>>> Dear Registrars:
>>>>
>>>> [This is an update: Updated items in square brackets.]
>>>>
>>>> [Excom has requested a teleconference between registrars and
>>>>PIR.]
>>>>
>>>> [Netsol has posted a note saying that they will not continue to
>>>> support IDNs in .com and .net. See note, attached at
>>>>
>>>>
>>the end of
>>
>>
>>>> this posting. Verisign Japan has made a simper posting.]
>>>>
>>>> You may wish for me to take this thread to a separate list.
>>>>
>>>> On or about 23 December 2003, PIR announced on their web site
>>>> their intention to delete all idn.org domains which were in the
>>>> domains they migrated from Verisign. I am told that it was not
>>>> announced in the form of an Email to registrars. I know that I
>>>> was advised by telephone just before Christmas. The
>>>>
>>>>
>>announcement
>>
>>
>>>> says that PIR will delete all RACE encoded .org domains --
>>>> bq--xxxxxxx.org -- on 1 February 2004. Here is the URL:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>http://www.pir.org/registrars/registrar_relations/announcements/index
>>
>>
>>>>_html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [The above web site available only from registered IP address
>>>> using ID and password.]
>>>>
>>>> The Registrars in Japan are justly concerned about such an
>>>> eventuality. A concerted action by registrars is in
>>>>
>>>>
>>the making.
>>
>>
>>>> Unfortunately, December 23rd was a holiday, the Emperor's
>>>> Birthday, and the 26th was the last day of business until 5
>>>> January. It has taken a few days for the realization
>>>>
>>>>
>>to hit home,
>>
>>
>>>> but hit it has, and hard!!!
>>>>
>>>> I think I remember that Register.com, Tucows, perhaps eNom and
>>>> other registrars not domiciled in Japan also made registrations
>>>> during the so called "test bed" landrush starting 9 November
>>>> 2000. Was Netaka a registrar at that time, also? I
>>>>
>>>>
>>think some of
>>
>>
>>>> you also made registrations in Korean and Traditional and
>>>> Simplified Chinese. All of these .org domains are
>>>>
>>>>
>>scheduled for
>>
>>
>>>> the guillotine in 30 days;-(
>>>>
>>>> Question: Is this matter of sufficient general concern to the
>>>> Consistency to vet the issue on this List? Or should
>>>>
>>>>
>>we create a
>>
>>
>>>> separate list?
>>>>
>>>> Regards, BobC, speaking with my PSI-Japan, Inc. hat on;-}
>>>>
>>>> > Dear Valued Partner,
>>>> >
>>>> > We regret to inform you that Network Solutions(r)
>>>>
>>>>
>>will no longer
>>
>>
>>>> provide
>>>> > multilingual domain name registration services or host
>>>> multilingual domain
>>>> > names as of February 28, 2004. Domain name registrations and
>>>> services not
>>>> > affiliated with multilingual domain names will not
>>>>
>>>>
>>be affected.
>>
>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The .org registry, Public Interest Registry, has
>>>>
>>>>
>>also announced
>>
>>
>>>> that it will
>>>> > be deleting legacy multilingual domain names, which are RACE
>>>> encoded, from
>>>> > its registry database on February 1, 2004. Network Solutions
>>>>will be
>>>> > deleting them from our systems on that date as well.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you wish to continue any of your current .com and .net
>>>> multilingual
>>>> > domain name registrations and related services, you
>>>>
>>>>
>>will need to
>>
>>
>>>> initiate a
>>>> > change of registrar for those .com and .net
>>>>
>>>>
>>multilingual domain
>>
>>
>>>>name
>>>> > registrations in your wholesale account to a registrar that
>>>> provides and
>>>> > will host multilingual domain names (MDNs). You
>>>>
>>>>
>>must transfer
>>
>>
>>>> your .com and
>>>> > .net multilingual domain name(s) and related
>>>>
>>>>
>>services to another
>>
>>
>>>> provider
>>>> > prior to February 28, 2004 to avoid the deletion of your .com
>>>> and .net
>>>> > multilingual domain name registration(s) and related
>>>>
>>>>
>>services.
>>
>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The existing term of your domain name registration
>>>>
>>>>
>>will not be
>>
>>
>>>> affected by
>>>> > this change as long as you transfer your multilingual domain
>>>> name(s) prior
>>>> > to February 28, 2004. All .org multilingual domain
>>>>
>>>>
>>names will be
>>
>>
>>>> deleted out
>>>> > of our system February 1, 2004, and .com and .net
>>>>
>>>>
>>domain names
>>
>>
>>>> will be
>>>> > deleted February 28, 2004.
>>>> >
>>>> > We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
>>>>
>>>>
>>If you have
>>
>>
>>>> any questions
>>>> > or concerns regarding your multilingual domain name
>>>> registration(s), please
>>>> > contact partnerprogram at networksolutions.com.
>>>> >
>>>> > You are a valued Partner and we appreciate your
>>>>
>>>>
>>allowing Network
>>
>>
>>>> Solutions
>>>> > to provide you with domain name registration services.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>> >
>>>> > The Network Solutions(r) Partner Program
>>>> >
>>>> > (c) Copyright 2003 Network Solutions, LLC. All
>>>>
>>>>
>>rights reserved.
>>
>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> "It doesn't do any good to run
>>>> if you don't start on time!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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