[registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer

[elliot noss]

My apologies for directing this only to you. It absolutely should be 
something that all, including Donna, should address. It sounds like that 
has already happened.

I do indeed think that the renting or selling of threads is a conflict 
of interest. I will note that renting them to an accredited registrar 
would be somewhat different than to a non-member of the constituency. If 
anyone cares, I am happy to expand on why I think so.

Conflict of interest is about the perception of bias, not actual bias, 
and a conflict of interest statement is about presenting publicly all 
circumstances where bias may be perceived.

For my purposes your explaination below is great. Thanks.

Regards

Jay Westerdal wrote:

> Elliot,
> All of us generate revenue from our accreditation in different ways.
> We all have different business models.
> 
> Name Intelligence got accredited due to Afilias's whois system.
> Afilias explained to us that they have no relationship with our
> company and that we were outside of the scope of their company
> contract with ICANN. Even though they like our stats they can
> not pick and choose who to help or allow us selected access to
> a thin whois with only registrar of record. They can't even
> release stats themselves, that is why our company feels it is
> important to collect these stats. The contract they have with
> ICANN has several hundred pages and didn't allow them to pick and
> choose who they enforced whois query limits on. The one field we
> needed from Afilias was the Registrar of record for the domain.
> Registries with thin whois have no problem giving this information
> out, but companies with thick whois have more fields to protect
> and stronger and longer contracts with ICANN. With EPP access it
> allows us a thinner view and tells us who the Registrar is. Our
> Name Suggestion technology and Registrar Stats require access to
> find out the status of the domain and who the registrar is.
> 
> ICANN doesn't have a system for companies that don't fit inside the
> box. So instead of waiting for ICANN to define more boxes we decided
> to jump inside the box; the ICANN box that best fit us was the
> Registrar box since that gave us access so that we could continue to
> report statistics on .INFO and .ORG (run by Afilias) TLDs.
> 
> I see no conflict with the issue of threads, and I think if you
> want to make it an issue. That to be fair we should ask any question
> to all applicants of any position in the RC not just one. Many
> registrar also generates revenue in other ways from its threads.
> Many do. For example, at whois-search.com/deleting/who.php
> it shows that BulkRegister (Donna) sell/rent threads to SnapNames.
> 
> Yes, Name Intelligence has made the decision to outsource its threads.
> Sorry for the long answer to a simple question but I hope I answered
> your question and maybe some of the thoughts behind your question. :)
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Jay Westerdal
> Name Intelligence, Inc.
> http://www.nameintelligence.com/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elliot noss [mailto:enoss at tucows.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:31 AM
> To: Jay Westerdal
> Cc: registrars at dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
> 
> 
> Do you sell/rent your threads to another company? We don't care about
> who or how much.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jay Westerdal wrote:
> 
> 
>>I accept the nomination, and if elected I will gladly serve.
>>
>>I am a representative for Name Intelligence.  I started working with the
>>domain industry in 1998 with Interland, Inc. as head of domain
>>registrations. In 2001, I left Interland and started Name Intelligence.
> 
> Name
> 
>>Intelligence works to create Registrar service. Name Intelligence list of
>>Registrars using our services is available on our home page at
>>http://www.nameintelligence.com  In December of 2003, Name Intelligence
> 
> was
> 
>>accredited by ICANN as a Registrar. We are not the typical Registrar, we
>>mostly use our EPP and RRP access so that we can design Registrar
> 
> services.
> 
>>I am not associated with any Registry and have no conflict of interest
> 
> which
> 
>>would preclude me from this position.
>>
>>Jay Westerdal
>>Name Intelligence, Inc.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
>>[mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org]On Behalf Of Elana Broitman
>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:02 AM
>>To: Bhavin Turakhia; Tim Ruiz; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine;
>>registrars at dnso.org
>>Cc: Divyank Turakhia
>>Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>>
>>
>>We how have a second nomination for Treasurer - Jay, please provide a
>>statement of conflict of interest and accept if you are interested.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Elana Broitman
>>Register.com
>>575 Eighth Avenue
>>New York, NY 10018
>>Phone (212) 798-9215
>>
>>
>>>EFax  (800) 886-2716
>>
>>Fax   (212) 629-9309
>>ebroitman at register.com
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
>>[mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org]On Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia
>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:48 AM
>>To: 'Tim Ruiz'; 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine';
>>registrars at dnso.org
>>Cc: 'Divyank Turakhia'
>>Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>>
>>
>>
>>I support Jays nomination too ....
>>
>>- bhavin
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
>>>[mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:39 AM
>>>To: 'Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine'; registrars at dnso.org
>>>Subject: RE: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>>>
>>>
>>>I second this nomination of Jay Westerdal.
>>>
>>>Tim Ruiz
>>>Go Daddy Software, Inc.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org
>>>[mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] On > Behalf Of Eric
>>>Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:30 AM
>>>To: registrars at dnso.org
>>>Subject: [registrars] Nomination of Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer
>>>
>>>I nominate Jay Westerdal for RC Treasurer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
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