[registrars] Cape town agenda

[Bhavin Turakhia]

Hi tim,

I know that a year ago verisign was policing this ...... I remember one of
our resellers tried this thru an api call and verisign warned us about
abusive behaviour the very next day

bhavin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org 
> [mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:35 PM
> To: Registrars at dnso.org
> Subject: RE: [registrars] Cape town agenda
> 
> Just to clarify my concerns regarding the ADD Grace Period 
> and why I would like to see it as an agenda item for Cape Town.
> 
> Right now it is possible for any registrar to register 
> hundreds, thousands, and even tens of thousands of domain 
> names on a daily basis and delete the worthless ones within 
> the ADD Grace Period.
> 
> For example, it appears that ItsYourDomain.com (Innerwise) or 
> one of their clients may be doing that quite regularly. 
> Although I don't know why they are doing it, one reason a 
> registrar (or registrar client) may want to do that is to 
> take a 3 or 4 day look at the traffic and decide which ones 
> are worth keeping. Note that it is next to impossible for 
> this to happen without at least the knowledge, and probably 
> the assistance, of the registrar.
> 
> A review of the registries agreements with ICANN, our RAA, 
> and our agreements with the registries indicate that there is 
> nothing that can be enforced to prevent this.
> 
> The question for us is, do we think that this is acceptable 
> or is it an abuse of the ADD Grace Period? If a large number 
> of registrars decided to participate in this activity it may:
> 
> 1. Erode consumer confidence in our industry. Domains are 
> reported as not available, then they are registered after 
> that by another party.
> 
> 2. Use registry resources for the gain of a very small group 
> of consumers (speculators).
> 
> 3. Consume registry bandwidth to the point where registrars' 
> normal business activity is throttled.
> 
> I would like to see us discuss possible solutions amongst 
> ourselves and with the registries. If our two constituencies 
> can agree on a solution, I would see no reason why ICANN 
> would not approve.
> 
> Tim
> 
>  
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Cape town agenda
> From: "Marcus Faure" <faure at globvill.de>
> Date: Tue, October 19, 2004 2:51 am
> To: "Bhavin Turakhia" <bhavin.t at logicboxes.com>
> Cc: "'Registrars List'" <Registrars at dnso.org>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> i already sent an eMail to the list asking for the addition of:
> 
> * Using IANA IDs on registry level
> 
> This could be a subitem of transfers.
> 
> Yours,
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > Bob connelly had submitted a below tentative agenda and it is 
> > important that all of you see if you want any other items, or any 
> > specific people to be involved in the meetings process and 
> post them 
> > to the list immediately -
> > 
> > --Registrar Constituency meeting processes and email list 
> management 
> > (closed meeting - constituency members only)
> > 
> > --Constituency Budget (Donna)(closed meeting - constituency members 
> > only)
> > 
> > --ICANN Budget (BAG and ICANN staff)
> > 
> > --ICANN positions - process and timing for filling them 
> (ICANN staff)
> > 
> > --Transfers (TAG)
> > 
> > --Whois (task force reps)
> > 
> > --US Congress (GAO) Study on Whois Accuracy (Elana)
> > 
> > --Net Registry - rules for rebidding (ICANN staff)
> > 
> > --sTLDs - (ICANN staff) (sTLD applicants invited to present)
> > 
> > --Process for choosing new gTLDs (may want to discuss 
> separately from 
> > registries meeting)
> > 
> > --Meeting with ccNSO (proposed agenda) ICANN Budget
> > IDNs                    
> > .eu presentation (eu ccTLD manager)
> > 
> > --Meeting with the Registry Constituency (proposed agenda) EPP 
> > Progress/Concerns Transfers Registry Maintenance Alerts & 
> > Notifications ICANN Budget Issues (if still relevant) Global 
> > Acceptance of new TLDs Evaluation of current TLDs 
> Redemptions, and the 
> > old idea of not billing us until the end of the grace 
> period Briefing 
> > by registries of any new services they plan to roll out
> > 
> > --Meeting with the Business/IPC Constituencies (proposed 
> agenda) ICANN 
> > Budget Whois / Privacy / Accuracy ICANN and the WSIS process
> > 
> > --Meeting with the Non-commercial Constituency (proposed 
> agenda) Whois 
> > Privacy Accuracy
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > Bhavin Turakhia
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