[registrars] DROA mining data via our easywhois site

Roni Jacobson rjacobson at register.com
Wed Jul 26 14:43:02 UTC 2006


To clarify, DROA was never a Register.com reseller.  In fact we sued them a few years ago to stop the misleading solicitations.  We will be contacting them about this . . . .

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-registrars at gnso.icann.org]On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:34 AM
To: registrars at gnso.icann.org
Subject: RE: [registrars] DROA mining data via our easywhois site


I think that's because they had been resellers for all three at some point, and left for one reason or another. They may still have customers with registrations at one or more of those registrars. I'll have this run by our Legal in regards to Wild West Domains. 


Tim 




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [registrars] DROA mining data via our easywhois site
From: Dan Wright <wright at smx.pair.com>
Date: Tue, July 25, 2006 12:58 pm
To: Larry Erlich <erlich at domainregistry.com>
Cc: John Kane <kane at enom.com>, registrars at gnso.icann.org

Their registration agreement seems to imply that they are a part of
Register.com, eNom, and Wild West domains.  Is there any truth to that?  Do
these other registrars even know DROA is making this statement in their
agreement?


"This Registration Agreement ("Agreement") sets forth the terms and conditions of
your use of this domain name registration service to register an Internet domain
name, your registration of that domain name, as well as other domain name
related services. In this Agreement "you" and "your" refer to each customer and
"we", "us" and "our" refer to Register.com, Inc., eNom, Inc., Wild West Domains,
Inc., BRANDON GRAY INTERNET SERVICES INC. (dba "NameJuice.com")
(\u201cRegistrar?, the ICANN accredited Registrars and DRoA, through which the
services are being offered. "



Daniel J. Wright                           wright at pair.com
Lead Software Developer, pairNIC   https://www.pairnic.com
pair Networks, Inc.                    http://www.pair.com

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Larry Erlich wrote:

> DROA operates as namejuice.com
> "BRANDON GRAY INTERNET SERVICES, INC. DBA NAMEJUICE.COM".
>
> I don't know for sure but I believe they are the
> same company or closely affiliated.
>
>
> Larry Erlich
> http://www.DomainRegistry.com
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> DomainRegistry.com Inc.
> ICANN Accredited Registrar * Since 1996
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> John Kane wrote:
> > They were a eNom reseller years ago but have been ICANN accredited for about two years. They were banned from making transfers (which was the main issue) on eNom's credential and new registrations are on there on their own ICANN credential.  Obviously we do not approve or condone whois scraping.
> > JLK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Mark Jeftovic" <markjr at easydns.com>
> > To: "Registrars Constituency" <registrars at gnso.icann.org>
> > Sent: 7/24/06 11:51 AM
> > Subject: [registrars] DROA mining data via our easywhois site
> >
> >
> > So I have logs documenting DROA machine harvesting whois data via our
> > easywhois.com universal whois lookup. It's no newsflash that they are
> > harvesting data, but now I have logs showing they are doing it.
> >
> > Enom: Aren't these guys one of your resellers?
> >
> > Is there any will within ICANN at all to enforce the rules against this?
> >
> > Jul 24 12:42:31 sp4506 index.php[13621]: Valid query - host:
> > 209.167.25.246,
> > ref:http://admin.droa.com/miscwhois.asp?domain=kinaree.net, domain:
> > kinaree.net
> >
> > Jul 24 12:49:02 sp4506 index.php[16406]: Valid query - host:
> > 209.167.25.205,
> > ref:http://admin.droa.com/miscwhois.asp?domain=partyanimalswy.net,
> > domain: partyanimalswy.net
> >
> > Jul 24 13:44:39 sp4506 index.php[18860]: Valid query - host:
> > 209.167.25.241,
> > ref:http://admin.droa.com/miscwhois.asp?domain=forensicanthropology.net,
> > domain: forensicanthropology.net
> >
> > Jul 24 14:18:09 sp4506 index.php[19035]: Valid query - host:
> > 209.167.25.205,
> > ref:http://admin.droa.com/miscwhois.asp?domain=mwsdlegal.com, domain:
> > mwsdlegal.com
> >
> > Jul 24 14:26:51 sp4506 index.php[19159]: Valid query - host:
> > 209.167.25.205,
> > ref:http://admin.droa.com/miscwhois.asp?domain=g3concert.com, domain:
> > g3concert.com
> >
> 

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