[registrars] Godaddy locks domains in for 60 days after a rant change

[Larry Erlich]

"I'm noticing that after a Godaddy user moves a domain to another 
Godaddy account, or changes the registrant info of a domain, they are 
enforcing a 60-day no transfer-out rule."

Tim,

If a registrant makes a minor typographical change to
the registrant name is that enough for your system to
trigger the lock?

Larry Erlich

http://www.DomainRegistry.com

Tim Ruiz wrote:
> Both are incorrect. It involves a separate and voluntary agreement 
> between us and the new registrant in regards to a completely optional 
> process. We have just as many customers who decide to transfer first, 
> then change the ownership. Our only concern is in protecting the 
> interests of our customers and ensuring secure transfers of ownership.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: [registrars] Godaddy locks domains in for 60 days after a
>     rant    change
>     From: Mark Jeftovic <markjr at easydns.com>
>     Date: Thu, October 05, 2006 2:45 pm
>     To: Richard Lau <richard at lau.com>
>     Cc: Registrars Constituency <registrars at gnso.icann.org>
> 
>     Yes, somebody else mentioned that to me off list, to which I replied:
> 
>     I think that's a liberal interpretation of this paragraph:
> 
>     "A domain name is within 60 days (or a lesser period to be determined)
>     after being transferred (apart from being transferred back to the
>     original Registrar in cases where both Registrars so agree and/or where
>     a decision in the dispute resolution process so directs)."
> 
>     Because in the next section the exclusions specifically define the
>     transfers as between registrars:
> 
>     "Instances when the re! quested change of Registrar may not be denied
>     include, but are not limited to: ...
> 
>     Domain name registration period time constraints, other than during the
>     first 60 days of initial registration or during the first 60 days after
>     a registrar transfer."
> 
>     It could be that sloppy text in the first paragraph opened the door to
>     this. If a registrar is worried about the change of registrant they
>     should satisfy themselves before executing it, it's a separate issue
>     from a registrar transfer.
> 
>     This is just a tactic to try to keep the domain via auto-renew or
>     hoping
>     the new owner is lazy and forgets after 60days and just leaves it there.
> 
>     -mark
> 
>     Richard Lau wrote:
>      > I could be wrong here, but I think the section where it says:
>      >
>      > A domain name is within 60 days (or a lesser period to be determined)
>      > after being transferred (apart from being transferred back to the
>      > original Registrar in cases wh! ere both Registrars so agree
>     and/or where
>      > a decision in the di spute resolution process so directs).
>      >
>      > is being interpreted as:
>      > A domain name is within 60 days after being transferred.  
>      > ... where the word "transferred" is used as transferred between two
>      > different registrants at the same Registrar.
>      >
>      > Probably not what the author(s) intended, but as we all have
>     seen, it's
>      > the letter of the (ICANN) law, not the intent of the law, that
>     counts.
>      >
>      > Just my guess.
>      >
>      > Richard
>      >
>      >
>      > On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:24:58 -0400, "Mark Jeftovic"
>     <markjr at easydns.com>
>      > said:
>      >
>      >>I'm noticing that after a Godaddy user moves a domain to another
>     Godaddy
>      >>account, or changes the registrant info of a domain, they are
>     enforcing
>      >>a 60-day no transfer-out rule.
>      >>
>      >>I don't think that is permissable under the policy posted at
>      >>
>      >>http://www.icann.org/transfers/polic! y-12jul04.htm
>      >>
>      >>Which only provides that the losing registrar can deny a transfer
>     if a
>      >>domain is within 60 days of the initial reg period or 60 days of a
>      >>previous registrar transfer.
>      >>
>      >>Has this come up before?
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>-mark
>      >>
>      >>--
>      >>Mark Jeftovic <markjr at easydns.com>
>      >>Founder & President, easyDNS Technologies Inc.
>      >>ph. +1-(416)-535-8672 ext 225
>      >>fx. +1-(866) 273-2892
>      >
>      >
> 
>     -- 
>     Mark Jeftovic <markjr at easydns.com>
>     Founder & President, easyDNS Technologies Inc.
>     ph. +1-(416)-535-8672 ext 225
>     fx. +1-(866) 273-2892 
>